Wrappers, Binders & Fillers Oh My!

[LazyLightning]

Hi folks,
On my journey to increase my knowledge of all things cigar, I am trying to find out what dictates the strength, flavor profile, etc... of different sticks. I have been given some very helpful and might I add tasty suggestions by seasoned bums recently as I try to find what I like and what I don't.

However as I look at the different shapes, ring gauge, wrappers, fillers and binders, I am left wondering how each of these influence the cigar overall? In other words, if I like an AF 858 Flor Fina Maduro (which I do), should I look into other brands that are maduro as well, or would this be unwise? I believe knowing these details will help me make more informed decisions, and possibly help me avoid buying cigars that I simply won't like. I realize that there is always a possibility of getting a stick that just isn't right for me, so I am speaking in more general terms (if this makes any sense at all)

Thanks in advance!

[Brimy]

In my limited experience cigars are generally classified by by their wrapper. The binder & fillers are less labeled. Generally that will give you origins, but not details. Again, from my limited experience depending on the ring gauge, the smaller the more prominent, the wrapper will provide much of the strength/flavor.

[LazyLightning]

I am going about it in a similar manner that I tackled pipe tobacco, when I first started. I keep a "tobacco journal" (and now a cigar version) In it, I put everything from ring gauge, wrapper, binder, etc... and how well I liked it. With pipe tobacco this made it easier for me to see in which direction to go when trying new blends. It's not a perfect system, but I have found (again in regards to pipe tobacco) it really helps me have a general idea if a blend I haven't tried will be to my liking.

[Brimy]

I am going about it in a similar manner that I tackled pipe tobacco, when I first started. I keep a "tobacco journal" (and now a cigar version) In it, I put everything from ring gauge, wrapper, binder, etc... and how well I liked it. With pipe tobacco this made it easier for me to see in which direction to go when trying new blends. It's not a perfect system, but I have found (again in regards to pipe tobacco) it really helps me have a general idea if a blend I haven't tried will be to my liking.

That sounds like a great idea! I've relied on my "old man" memory!!

[Ciro]

Found this a while ago on the JRCigars Page

"A Guide To Cigar Wrappers"

The color and sheen of the exterior wrapper are the initial attributes a smoker notices when looking at a cigar. The wrapper provides an important marketing platform for the manufacturer and simultaneously informs the consumer as to the content and quality of the cigar.

As well, a cigar’s wrapper leaf can determine anywhere from 60% to 90% of the cigar’s overall flavor. A good trick to identify the significance of the wrapper is to cut an inch of wrapper leaf off the bottom of a cigar, stripping it much like a wire-stripper takes the insulator off of an electrical wire. This shows the filler and binder leaves only. This portion of the cigar will taste much less flavorful, and reveal the true importance of the wrapper.

It is important to acknowledge that the wrapper is often an attractive sales pitch for a cigar, much like an appealing album or book cover. At the very least, the wrapper is a message saying, “smoke me.” And though a quality wrapper often indicates a superior smoke, it usually affects the cigar’s composition and aesthetic more so than the entire flavor. In short, it introduces the cigar to the smoker and may or may not affect the taste and seasoning.

The Nitty Gritty
The ideal wrapper must have few to zero blemishes and larger than other leafs to properly wrap the cigar. This means that it usually comes from the lower levels of the cigar tobacco plant, where bigger (and often more flavorful) leaves grow. Also, it usually has a distinct sheen created by specific oils from aging process. Finally, the wrapper’s flavor is carefully cultivated and protected by cigar growers in order to provide the optimal taste and experience.

The Color
Wrappers range from light tan to dark brown; however one may find an occasional offbeat green wrapper, like those manufactured by Garcia Vega. All leaves are originally green, but the aging process is what brings the exterior its chocolate hue.

Furthermore, each shade is associated with a type, the name of which being principally determined by the region from which the seed originated, where it was actually grown and how. All in all, there are over 50 named wrapper leafs; many are mixes or “tweeners” of two different origins. Sometimes such hybrids are named because the seed was from one region but cultivated in another, such as an Ecuadorian Connecticut.

The Big Four
The four major wrapper leaves, from light to dark, are Connecticut, Corojo, Habano and Maduro.

Connecticut: As the name implies, this leaf comes from the Northeastern U.S. state and is essentially the only significant tobacco export from America. However, the seed is grown in Ecuador as well. This plant is nurtured under special conditions, garnering it the nickname “Connecticut Shade” because it is mostly grown under some form of protection – like giant sheets of cheesecloth. This keeps its color light and the unpredictable weather, such as excessive sun radiation, from beating up the plant. The lack of sunlight also contributes to the leaf’s mild flavor and low nicotine content, but it usually has a woody, spicy and/or cedar taste. Suggested examples include the beloved Macanudo and Montecristo cigars.

Corojo: A little darker in color than the Connecticut wrapper, the Corojo was originally grown in Cuba but, because of the embargo, it is now mostly grown in Honduras. Due to the new location, the seed needed to be genetically modified in order to survive in its new environment. This wrapper tends to have a very spicy, peppery, robust flavor, favored by many cigar smokers; however, one drawback to the wrapper is its toughness. It sometimes doesn’t smoke easily. To try it out, explore the Camacho Corojo.

Habano: is similar in color to Corojo and is also from Cuba, but today it grows mostly in Nicaragua. The leaf produces a heavy, spicy flavor and is often dense with nicotine, so it may overwhelm a beginner smoker. Discover this delicious wrapper with brands like the Perdomo Habano.

Maduro: is the darkest in color of the four and enjoys the lengthiest lifespan, from seedling to wrapper leaf. It goes through such a long process to properly darken and flavor the leaf properly. Because of these distinct parameters, to be classified as Maduro the wrapper requires a hearty, thick leaf that can withstand years of aging and still maintain its un-blemished cover quality. Not every leaf can be turned into a Maduro wrapper and, interestingly enough, they tend to defy their ominous looks. These cigars often produce a somewhat sweeter undercurrent, which has earned this style the nickname “dessert smoke.” To learn more about this specific wrapper.

Other Notable Wrappers
Some other wrappers worth mentioning are the Candela, Sumatra, Oscuro and Cameroon.

Candela: is distinctly green in color, which has much to do with its quick aging process. Though this doesn’t detract from its value, flavor or strength profiles. It is usually milder and sometimes used in short, promotional runs of cigars.

Sumatra: comes from the Indonesian region that bears the same name. Known for its cinnamon zest, it is usually mild and sweet. Light up a Hoyo de Monterey Dark Sumatra cigar and taste the full-bodied take on the Sumatra wrapper.

Oscuro: is a very dark cigar wrapper. These remarkable cigars are sometimes called double Maduro. Why? Because they are fermented for longer than the traditional Maduro wrap in order to achieve their intense color and flavor.

Cameroon: comes from the Central African country. The leaves of this plant have a unique “toothy” quality, which fortunately does not translate to the actual wrapper or its taste. The Cameroon is rich and savory. Intrigued by the African mystique? We recommend an H. Upmann Vintage Cameroon.

[Ciro]

This looks nice; seems like you can add your own notes a put the band on as well.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/2684..._mmca2=pla&r=1

or this

Humidor Notes

[cbr310]

I wonder the same thing. I started keeping track of every stick I smoke. Going to go through and look at similarities to try and narrow it down.

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[LazyLightning]

Found this a while ago on the JRCigars Page

"A Guide To Cigar Wrappers"

The color and sheen of the exterior wrapper are the initial attributes a smoker notices when looking at a cigar. The wrapper provides an important marketing platform for the manufacturer and simultaneously informs the consumer as to the content and quality of the cigar.

As well, a cigar’s wrapper leaf can determine anywhere from 60% to 90% of the cigar’s overall flavor. A good trick to identify the significance of the wrapper is to cut an inch of wrapper leaf off the bottom of a cigar, stripping it much like a wire-stripper takes the insulator off of an electrical wire. This shows the filler and binder leaves only. This portion of the cigar will taste much less flavorful, and reveal the true importance of the wrapper.

It is important to acknowledge that the wrapper is often an attractive sales pitch for a cigar, much like an appealing album or book cover. At the very least, the wrapper is a message saying, “smoke me.” And though a quality wrapper often indicates a superior smoke, it usually affects the cigar’s composition and aesthetic more so than the entire flavor. In short, it introduces the cigar to the smoker and may or may not affect the taste and seasoning.

The Nitty Gritty
The ideal wrapper must have few to zero blemishes and larger than other leafs to properly wrap the cigar. This means that it usually comes from the lower levels of the cigar tobacco plant, where bigger (and often more flavorful) leaves grow. Also, it usually has a distinct sheen created by specific oils from aging process. Finally, the wrapper’s flavor is carefully cultivated and protected by cigar growers in order to provide the optimal taste and experience.

The Color
Wrappers range from light tan to dark brown; however one may find an occasional offbeat green wrapper, like those manufactured by Garcia Vega. All leaves are originally green, but the aging process is what brings the exterior its chocolate hue.

Furthermore, each shade is associated with a type, the name of which being principally determined by the region from which the seed originated, where it was actually grown and how. All in all, there are over 50 named wrapper leafs; many are mixes or “tweeners” of two different origins. Sometimes such hybrids are named because the seed was from one region but cultivated in another, such as an Ecuadorian Connecticut.

The Big Four
The four major wrapper leaves, from light to dark, are Connecticut, Corojo, Habano and Maduro.

Connecticut: As the name implies, this leaf comes from the Northeastern U.S. state and is essentially the only significant tobacco export from America. However, the seed is grown in Ecuador as well. This plant is nurtured under special conditions, garnering it the nickname “Connecticut Shade” because it is mostly grown under some form of protection – like giant sheets of cheesecloth. This keeps its color light and the unpredictable weather, such as excessive sun radiation, from beating up the plant. The lack of sunlight also contributes to the leaf’s mild flavor and low nicotine content, but it usually has a woody, spicy and/or cedar taste. Suggested examples include the beloved Macanudo and Montecristo cigars.

Corojo: A little darker in color than the Connecticut wrapper, the Corojo was originally grown in Cuba but, because of the embargo, it is now mostly grown in Honduras. Due to the new location, the seed needed to be genetically modified in order to survive in its new environment. This wrapper tends to have a very spicy, peppery, robust flavor, favored by many cigar smokers; however, one drawback to the wrapper is its toughness. It sometimes doesn’t smoke easily. To try it out, explore the Camacho Corojo.

Habano: is similar in color to Corojo and is also from Cuba, but today it grows mostly in Nicaragua. The leaf produces a heavy, spicy flavor and is often dense with nicotine, so it may overwhelm a beginner smoker. Discover this delicious wrapper with brands like the Perdomo Habano.

Maduro: is the darkest in color of the four and enjoys the lengthiest lifespan, from seedling to wrapper leaf. It goes through such a long process to properly darken and flavor the leaf properly. Because of these distinct parameters, to be classified as Maduro the wrapper requires a hearty, thick leaf that can withstand years of aging and still maintain its un-blemished cover quality. Not every leaf can be turned into a Maduro wrapper and, interestingly enough, they tend to defy their ominous looks. These cigars often produce a somewhat sweeter undercurrent, which has earned this style the nickname “dessert smoke.” To learn more about this specific wrapper.

Other Notable Wrappers
Some other wrappers worth mentioning are the Candela, Sumatra, Oscuro and Cameroon.

Candela: is distinctly green in color, which has much to do with its quick aging process. Though this doesn’t detract from its value, flavor or strength profiles. It is usually milder and sometimes used in short, promotional runs of cigars.

Sumatra: comes from the Indonesian region that bears the same name. Known for its cinnamon zest, it is usually mild and sweet. Light up a Hoyo de Monterey Dark Sumatra cigar and taste the full-bodied take on the Sumatra wrapper.

Oscuro: is a very dark cigar wrapper. These remarkable cigars are sometimes called double Maduro. Why? Because they are fermented for longer than the traditional Maduro wrap in order to achieve their intense color and flavor.

Cameroon: comes from the Central African country. The leaves of this plant have a unique “toothy” quality, which fortunately does not translate to the actual wrapper or its taste. The Cameroon is rich and savory. Intrigued by the African mystique? We recommend an H. Upmann Vintage Cameroon.

Thank you for this info, it will be very helpful moving forward.

[Sir Lancerolot]

Hi folks,
In other words, if I like an AF 858 Flor Fina Maduro (which I do), should I look into other brands that are maduro as well, or would this be unwise?

In general if you like a maduro of one variety, you will like maduros in general. They have a very distinctive flavor - earthy and sweet. However, you happened to pick an example that is one of two exceptions I have encountered. Fuente maduros do not taste typically "maduro-y" to me. Neither do ISOM Cohibas.

Also, Indonesian-grown Sumatra wrappers have a different flavor from Ecuadorian Sumatra wrappers, so be sure and try both.

[LazyLightning]

In general if you like a maduro of one variety, you will like maduros in general. They have a very distinctive flavor - earthy and sweet. However, you happened to pick an example that is one of two exceptions I have encountered. Fuente maduros do not taste typically "maduro-y" to me. Neither do ISOM Cohibas.

Also, Indonesian-grown Sumatra wrappers have a different flavor from Ecuadorian Sumatra wrappers, so be sure and try both.

I appreciate all this information very much, it can be a bit confusing when first starting out. I will give both of those a try as I find my way. I am finalizing an order right now with some more suggested cigars,can't wait to try them too.