Vacuum Sealing

Good info, tnx, y'all.

I've been using the plastic containers that Chinese take-out soup comes in (with a piece of tape over the little hole they poke in the top), for some of my tobaccos. Perhaps I should scrounge up / invest in some more jars and ditch the plastic.

Granted, I just keep short-term tobacco for semi-immediate use, but over time, short-term tends to become long-term :)

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Originally Posted by Pugsley

In addition to the new FDA regs there's another reason to start buying in bulk soon. On the ballot here in California is Proposition 56 which is expected to pass by a wide margin. This is from the official voter's guide:

" A YES vote on this measure means: State excise tax on cigarettes would increase by $2 per pack—from 87 cents to $2.87. State excise tax on other tobacco products would increase by a similar amount. State excise tax also would be applied to electronic cigarettes."

Everything is about to get a lot more expensive.

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Yes, it's not just losing some of the newer great blends due to the FDA deeming date. Taxation is my bigger concern, along with my favorite companies potentially closing due to cost of manufacturer etc.. Up in new brunswick Canada, a pouch of Amphora is about 35 dollars. Australia and new zealand are much worse. And if US prices go, we don't have the luxury that Canucks do, to buy in the US and bring it back, or aussies ordering from 4noggins etc. It'd be a game changer.

I've been stocking up on inexpensive, meat and potatoes bulk from D&R, Stokkebye and C&D for a few years. wish I had more than 20lbs but it's better than nothing.

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Originally Posted by Aguineapig

Yes, it's not just losing some of the newer great blends due to the FDA deeming date. Taxation is my bigger concern, along with my favorite companies potentially closing due to cost of manufacturer etc.. Up in new brunswick Canada, a pouch of Amphora is about 35 dollars. Australia and new zealand are much worse. And if US prices go, we don't have the luxury that Canucks do, to buy in the US and bring it back, or aussies ordering from 4noggins etc. It'd be a game changer.

I've been stocking up on inexpensive, meat and potatoes bulk from D&R, Stokkebye and C&D for a few years. wish I had more than 20lbs but it's better than nothing.

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I have hundreds of tins of tobacco, which has always been my preferred method of buying and aging it, but I wonder how long it would last if I could no longer afford to replace it. It seems the smart move is to change my ways and buy in bulk now while I still can.

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Originally Posted by Pugsley

I have hundreds of tins of tobacco, which has always been my preferred method of buying and aging it, but I wonder how long it would last if I could no longer afford to replace it. It seems the smart move is to change my ways and buy in bulk now while I still can.

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I bought some tins at the beginning before realizing how drastic the difference was in terms of cost/oz. I traded most of them away, so I wouldn't fall in love with tin only offerings. Especially if you are vigilant and catch the good deals, it's a huge difference even factoring in jars. I got 5 lbs of lane limited ready rubbed recently for a dollar an ounce with free shipping. I could have bought 8 pease tins, or a few more of something cheaper like orlik, but instead I ended up with 5 times the ounceage. Then came 5lbs of D&R tobaccos for 87 shipped. IT's all about watching for the good deals. McClellands I don't care for, and they were (for a while) almost twice as spendy as C&D, and you ended up getting more water weight with the McC due to more humectant use in their bulks, so it's easy to spend a ton on bulk too, but not as much so. On deck sometime is a 5lb bag of Macbaren Golden extra, just waiting for the coupon codes necessary to get it under 120$. the list goes and on with regards to great economical gems.

I do think baccy ages a little bit nicer in the tins, but not enough to make up for the cost difference give that I am an extreme penny pincher. Unfortunately I did fall for Pease Key largo, so I'll need to grab a few tins of that =D

I've been buying in pounds thinking I could store them as is...

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Originally Posted by droy1958

I've been buying in pounds thinking I could store them as is...

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Well, if it's any consolation, now is a good time to buy canning jars... businesses are trying to unload them to make space for Christmas items. I got a heck of a deal on some Ball Mason quart jars last weekend at Big Lots. The store had canning supplies marked down 20% and they also had one of those store-wide 20% off sales so I got several cases of the quart jars for just $7.00 a piece. A quart jar will hold approximately 8 oz. of tobacco. The more dense the tobacco, the more you can fit in.

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Originally Posted by Haebar

Do NOT Store In Plastic
One of the worst crimes a smoker can commit is to store their tobacco in plastic long term.


I don't know if you remember about the 5 lbs. of bulk Dunhill My Mixture that I purchased at the Nashville Pipe Show last year that was unsmokable. It had been stored in the original bag for about 10 years and bit like nobody's business. I ended up giving it to @Lostmason who tried various remedies and wasn't able to improve it. Anyway, my theory is that the casings reacted with the plastic bag and created some nasty contaminant that tainted the tobacco.

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Um, so I guess the various samples I got from the Noob Sampler Trade which have been in plastic baggies for...oh, a year or more, are bad now? I have noticed everything kinda tasted the same, you think that's the plastic or my inexperience?

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Originally Posted by Rocket Scientologist

Um, so I guess the various samples I got from the Noob Sampler Trade which have been in plastic baggies for...oh, a year or more, are bad now? I have noticed everything kinda tasted the same, you think that's the plastic or my inexperience?

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I wouldn't think they would have gone bad in that short period of time. The tobacco I was talking about had been stored in the same bag for probably 10 years or more. Although tobacco is shipped and sold in plastic bags, they are not intended for long term storage.

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Originally Posted by Rocket Scientologist

Um, so I guess the various samples I got from the Noob Sampler Trade which have been in plastic baggies for...oh, a year or more, are bad now? I have noticed everything kinda tasted the same, you think that's the plastic or my inexperience?

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C) they're probably too dry. Plastic bags don't hold humidity long term. (I assume you had them in bags outside the humidor but I could be wrong, heck .500 is a good day for me:))