Aafter about 3-4 months of piping still cant get it to stay lite. I pack with the 3rds method and have tried swirl and frank method. The draw is fine and not over packed, nor do I think its to loose. I tamp every now and again. Seems like in relighting about every 5 mins at most. The bacy is pretty dry. If you smoke to fast will it go out? Im still enjoying it but going through lighters like crazy. Jealous of hearing everyone smoking through with just a light or two. Ok rants over back to it and watch the pens game!