My Fold-n-Stuff Method

[Lostmason]

ARGHHHH,,,stopped a few stores to get some OTC to try the musketball and they didn't have any ,,mo Cap't ,no PA,no Borkum,,,nothing.I hate waiting,,it just suuucckksss

[Emperor Zurg]

You can even sign me up as a keynote speaker, provided there will be complimentary 1792.

Speaking of 1792 and flakes, what's your secret to smoking this stuff? Such nice, stong flavors in this weed but it seems to be the most incombustible substance I've ever put into a pipe. I can't ever keep it burning for more than a couple minutes. I've had the best success rubbing it out while still wet (if you try to rub a dry flake out it crumbles to dust and tiny toothpicks) then letting it dry a bit and loading loosely. I've tried the fold and stuff and it just will not burn and makes a lot of moisture.

[Branzig]

Speaking of 1792 and flakes, what's your secret to smoking this stuff? Such nice, stong flavors in this weed but it seems to be the most incombustible substance I've ever put into a pipe. I can't ever keep it burning for more than a couple minutes. I've had the best success rubbing it out while still wet (if you try to rub a dry flake out it crumbles to dust and tiny toothpicks) then letting it dry a bit and loading loosely. I've tried the fold and stuff and it just will not burn and makes a lot of moisture.

A lot of it is the oil inside the tobacco. A lot of SG flakes suffer from this unfortunately.

I like to rub the flake out, then put it back in the tin and let it sit in there for about 3 weeks undisturbed. That seems to evaporate the perfect amount of water as well as oil to where it still smokes even and dry, but isn't so dry that it becomes harsh.

I also like to smoke all SG flakes in a big wide open draw pipe.

[Emperor Zurg]

A lot of it is the oil inside the tobacco. A lot of SG flakes suffer from this unfortunately.

I like to rub the flake out, then put it back in the tin and let it sit in there for about 3 weeks undisturbed. That seems to evaporate the perfect amount of water as well as oil to where it still smokes even and dry, but isn't so dry that it becomes harsh.

I also like to smoke all SG flakes in a big wide open draw pipe.

I'll have to try your rub-out method next time. Right now I've got another cob bowl loaded up and waiting with folded and stuffed 1792. Little drier than last time, little looser pack. I intend to fill my lighter to the max and do battle with it as I drive across town for a delivery I expect an empty lighter and mostly empty pipe by the time I get back

[Mister Moo]

Speaking of 1792 and flakes, what's your secret to smoking this stuff? Such nice, stong flavors in this weed but it seems to be the most incombustible substance I've ever put into a pipe. I can't ever keep it burning for more than a couple minutes. I've had the best success rubbing it out while still wet (if you try to rub a dry flake out it crumbles to dust and tiny toothpicks) then letting it dry a bit and loading loosely. I've tried the fold and stuff and it just will not burn and makes a lot of moisture.

1792 bulk is always much drier, ready to smoke, when I buy it. As you're figuring out with LBF, each flake has its' own character for how it burns and tamps. Starting with a new flake, for me, always begins with a meer (to know the flavor) and one dry-ish flake well rubbed out. Trouble with 1792 is, most people smoke half a bowl and they're done with it for life. It is weird tasting and, from the get-go, a little bit of a fight. Worth it, though.

1792 is part of a world of leathery flakes that are a bear to burn without drying and rubbing out. However, in flavor-world, the bears are great. 1792, Full Virginia Flake, Stonehaven... there must be more.

[Branzig]

I'll have to try your rub-out method next time. Right now I've got another cob bowl loaded up and waiting with folded and stuffed 1792. Little drier than last time, little looser pack. I intend to fill my lighter to the max and do battle with it as I drive across town for a delivery I expect an empty lighter and mostly empty pipe by the time I get back

I don't know how you do it...I get too frustrated with tobacco that won't stay lit

If it won't stay lit fairly consistently, I will just put the pipe down and come back to it later when it wants to behave itself again.

[commonsenseman]

Speaking of 1792 and flakes, what's your secret to smoking this stuff? Such nice, stong flavors in this weed but it seems to be the most incombustible substance I've ever put into a pipe. I can't ever keep it burning for more than a couple minutes. I've had the best success rubbing it out while still wet (if you try to rub a dry flake out it crumbles to dust and tiny toothpicks) then letting it dry a bit and loading loosely. I've tried the fold and stuff and it just will not burn and makes a lot of moisture.

A lot of it is the oil inside the tobacco. A lot of SG flakes suffer from this unfortunately.

I like to rub the flake out, then put it back in the tin and let it sit in there for about 3 weeks undisturbed. That seems to evaporate the perfect amount of water as well as oil to where it still smokes even and dry, but isn't so dry that it becomes harsh.

I also like to smoke all SG flakes in a big wide open draw pipe.

I'll have to try your rub-out method next time. Right now I've got another cob bowl loaded up and waiting with folded and stuffed 1792. Little drier than last time, little looser pack. I intend to fill my lighter to the max and do battle with it as I drive across town for a delivery I expect an empty lighter and mostly empty pipe by the time I get back

1792 bulk is always much drier, ready to smoke, when I buy it. As you're figuring out with LBF, each flake has its' own character for how it burns and tamps. Starting with a new flake, for me, always begins with a meer (to know the flavor) and one dry-ish flake well rubbed out. Trouble with 1792 is, most people smoke half a bowl and they're done with it for life. It is weird tasting and, from the get-go, a little bit of a fight. Worth it, though.

1792 is part of a world of leathery flakes that are a bear to burn without drying and rubbing out. However, in flavor-world, the bears are great. 1792, Full Virginia Flake, Stonehaven... there must be more.

Wow, so much good advice. I agree, 1792 is a very difficult flake to smoke, one of the hardest. It's dense, thick & wet. It's also tough because the flake thickness varies so much. The best bowls I've had required the tobacco to be very dry, and for me to smoke very slowly. Like, barely burning slowly. Folded & stuffed is good, but it expands a TON. I like to use medium thick flakes for the folded part & thin, almost dusty stuff for the "top-dressing". When rubbed out, I prefer a shallow, large bowl. When folded & stuffed, I almost always prefer a taller bowl.

Experiment with dryness & method. Keep us posted with your results.

[Emperor Zurg]

Went a little better this time around. The stuff seems to burn the best after a 'crowd to center' tamp (or strand re-arranging more like it). I really like this weed alongside a can or 2 of cola. At times it reminds me a little of Penzance, at other times it reminds me of Dr Pepper. 2 hours on 1 thin half of a flake. I'm relaxed now and want to take a nap.

[commonsenseman]

Went a little better this time around. The stuff seems to burn the best after a 'crowd to center' tamp (or strand re-arranging more like it). I really like this weed alongside a can or 2 of cola. At times it reminds me a little of Penzance, at other times it reminds me of Dr Pepper. 2 hours on 1 thin half of a flake. I'm relaxed now and want to take a nap.

Glad it worked out ok. I'll try the cola trick next time.

Wow, 2 hours is intense, you WERE smoking it slowly.

[Emperor Zurg]

Wow, 2 hours is intense, you WERE smoking it slowly.

Well I bought it in a 250g box so it was half of one of those flakes, albeit a very thin one.
First thing I do when I get a box like that is cut all the flakes in half so they fit in a squatty pint mason jar.