It's just the suits in Washington bullying a niche that isn't properly represented. All people associate tobacco lovers with cigarette smokers, the worst possible comparison. We need to organize & fight it with a petition, or else this noble hobby will disappear on US soil.
Who's ready to move to Cuba? They are going to start building McDonalds & Starbucks now that the restrictions have been lifted. If things get to outrageous here we can always move & start a community there!
New thought.
What about brands that have been transitioned to new manufacturers etc. , like Escudo; or Dunhill, which was re-introduced to the US in 2010 I think?
I've wondered about this as well...there are a ton blends that have been reintroduced post 2007...or who have switched manufacturers...
Thank god the Gawith's have been making their tobaccos since before the dinosaurs walked the earth lol
New thought.
What about brands that have been transitioned to new manufacturers etc. , like Escudo; or Dunhill, which was re-introduced to the US in 2010 I think?
Originally Posted by Branzig
I've wondered about this as well...there are a ton blends that have been reintroduced post 2007...or who have switched manufacturers...
Thank god the Gawith's have been making their tobaccos since before the dinosaurs walked the earth lol
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Not sure how this will pan out; I believe though that in order to be grandfathered, the product needed to be commercially available prior to the 2007 date and thereafter. Not sure how they would interpret temporary periods of product unavailability. A shortage? Maybe? Discontinuing for a period and re-introducing? Perhaps not.
Just speculation.
Not sure how this will pan out; I believe though that in order to be grandfathered, the product needed to be commercially available prior to the 2007 date and thereafter. Not sure how they would interpret temporary periods of product unavailability. A shortage? Maybe? Discontinuing for a period and re-introducing? Perhaps not.
Just speculation.
I'm pretty sure just about everything I smoke on the regular is pre-2007....With the exception of maybe Storm Front...
But the technicalities of whether it has been reformulated and or switched manufacturers post 2007....that's what scares me.
What's really going to hurt is my cigars...I don't really buy a ton of them at a time so my stash isn't super deep....and I smoke a lot of post 2007 sticks...
All the more reason to fall into the CC death pit I guess.
It's just the suits in Washington bullying a niche that isn't properly represented. All people associate tobacco lovers with cigarette smokers, the worst possible comparison. We need to organize & fight it with a petition, or else this noble hobby will disappear on US soil.
Who's ready to move to Cuba? They are going to start building McDonalds & Starbucks now that the restrictions have been lifted. If things get to outrageous here we can always move & start a community there!
Or....in Iceland.
Jailed bankers, gender equality & majestic fjords: Reasons to love Iceland
Some good news, I read that the FDA doesn't seem to care about pipes themselves. So artisans and pipe carvers should still be able to take part in their trade....
Some good news, I read that the FDA doesn't seem to care about pipes themselves. So artisans and pipe carvers should still be able to take part in their trade....
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I figured as much. They don't really 'regulate' dope pipes and all that associated paraphernalia either. Never really did. It's the weed itself they go after. I figured it would be the same with tobacco once they got their claws around that. Besides, what idiot couldn't hollow out a corncob if he were sitting on 200# of tobacco and only lacking a pipe? That's why my evasive maneuvers thus far have focused on acquiring tobacco - not pipes.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
Unless he relies on tobacco sales as well, there is no need to close shop.
I've talked to 3 seperate artisans, 2 of which have called and talked to the FDA's retail division and they both got the same answer. As long as the pipes are made with all traditional materials, then there is no problem.
The fine print goes after coils, metals, and batteries specifically (vape/ecig market)
As matter of fact, we have it pretty easy. The FDA is going to abolish vaping.