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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynn View Post
    dang ya guy's just had to do that postin thing....now ya had me reddin an reddin ..whatca tryin to do keep me busy reddin...
    Sumtin ta do whilest yer smokin Bubba...

    Just finish a bowl of "C" in my DG Savoy.I like this one alot, I tasted a almost creamy flavor as well as the citrus.A smooth easy smoke that would be great for introducing newbs to our side of smoking.The flavors are enjoyable with just enough spice to keep iy fresh.
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    Smoking some Mixture B (batch #2) as I write.

    The flavors are emerging and it's getting close to what it's conceived to be but it's still a bit aggressive and not as cohesive as the batch that's a couple of months older and spot on.

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    I swear ol @NeverBend musta been like pipe tobacco born......caint hardly keep up with the stuff he keeps postin....

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    Blending stuff is fun. More so with a good mentor - great work, gentlemen!

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    Blending notes:

    I've added Stokkebye Perique, Stokkebye Latakia, Eastern Carolina Ribbon with Stokkebye Kentucky Dark Fired on backorder.

    Taste:
    When we refer to sweet, in tobacco or foods, are we saying sweet, like sugar, or sweet like squash? Similarly is a food spicy like chili, cardamom or thyme? Each class of tobacco, Virginia, Orientals, Burleys, etc., may have these characteristics in similarly different ways. Virginia can range from sugar to molasses or even squash like sweetness. Orientals range from brightly to subtly spiced. Perhaps a good topic to examine in this thread as we go forward.

    General notes about Varietals versus Blends:
    This equates very closely to wines where one may be a combination of grape types while another use a single specific grape. A varietal is a single type of leaf. A blend a combination leaf of similar type. In general I buy and use varietals. If they're good, their characteristics are more tractable and they impart specific qualities to a blend. Blends contain a range of quality that becomes an average. If there are bad crops then the blend may be better but as long as the quality of the varietals are good I tend to prefer them but I do use some blends.

    General notes on Stokkebye:
    You're familiar with this manufacturer, prevalent in the industry. Their flakes are good value but my blending interest is in their mixtures (ribbon cut tobaccos) that I feel have too fine a cut for my tastes and desires. Their blending components are also a fine ribbon cut (compared to C&D Red Ribbon Virginia for example) but when selected for purpose the quality of their tobacco, that I've received, has bee good.

    Stokkebye Macedonian:
    I was surprised by the potency of this varietal. It's useful in small quantities to increase body, spice and a sour/bitter nuance. Too much will take over a mixture and it will become aggressive. The quality of the leaf is good. This tobacco highlights the differences between suppliers and perhaps the mislabeling of some components as other Macedonians (at any price) haven't been similar in quality or characteristics and none as potent.

    Stokkebye Perique:
    I've had it a short time but it's the best Perique that I've found (see notes above about lack of consistency across suppliers). Short story is that the original St. James Perique is no longer made. St. James was far more potent and, in my opinion, far superior. C&D Exclusive claims to use 50% Perique, an amount that would have been unsmokable for almost anyone if it had been made with the original St. James. Classic Perique mixtures, like Rattray's Red Rapparee were made with less than 10% St. James. Perique was noted for bringing a rich fruity sweetness with a lot of spice but that's diminished with what's available today. I've used the Stokkebye Perique up to 20% in test mixtures but it seems best in a supporting role at 10% or a little less where it enhances and spices but isn't forward.

    Stokkebye Latakia:
    Doesn't smell or smoke like it was processed with tar. Thinner cut and not as smokey as other Latakia that we use. I don't have experience with this component yet but in a couple of test mixtures it's a bit harder to mix but more evenly distributes with less settling. More as I use it.

    Stokkebye Kentucky Dark Fired:
    I like our Dark Fired that's a string cut (very thin) and I suspect that it's made by Stokkebye. If it is then we have more and if not it may present an alternative. The other Stokkebye blenders have been good quality.

    Eastern Carolina Ribbon:
    There was a time when Carolina was the king of tobacco, richer and more deeply sweet than Virginia. 35 years ago Carolina was defined as New, Middle and Old Belt. This Eastern Carolina (New Belt?) is very light and inoffensive but too bland to be more than a filler or diluting component. Wish I'd have ordered an ounce to try it but I was excited to try one of today's Carolinas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverBend View Post
    Blending notes:

    I've added Stokkebye Perique, Stokkebye Latakia, Eastern Carolina Ribbon with Stokkebye Kentucky Dark Fired on backorder.

    Taste:
    When we refer to sweet, in tobacco or foods, are we saying sweet, like sugar, or sweet like squash? Similarly is a food spicy like chili, cardamom or thyme? Each class of tobacco, Virginia, Orientals, Burleys, etc., may have these characteristics in similarly different ways. Virginia can range from sugar to molasses or even squash like sweetness. Orientals range from brightly to subtly spiced. Perhaps a good topic to examine in this thread as we go forward.

    General notes about Varietals versus Blends:
    This equates very closely to wines where one may be a combination of grape types while another use a single specific grape. A varietal is a single type of leaf. A blend a combination leaf of similar type. In general I buy and use varietals. If they're good, their characteristics are more tractable and they impart specific qualities to a blend. Blends contain a range of quality that becomes an average. If there are bad crops then the blend may be better but as long as the quality of the varietals are good I tend to prefer them but I do use some blends.

    General notes on Stokkebye:
    You're familiar with this manufacturer, prevalent in the industry. Their flakes are good value but my blending interest is in their mixtures (ribbon cut tobaccos) that I feel have too fine a cut for my tastes and desires. Their blending components are also a fine ribbon cut (compared to C&D Red Ribbon Virginia for example) but when selected for purpose the quality of their tobacco, that I've received, has bee good.

    Stokkebye Macedonian:
    I was surprised by the potency of this varietal. It's useful in small quantities to increase body, spice and a sour/bitter nuance. Too much will take over a mixture and it will become aggressive. The quality of the leaf is good. This tobacco highlights the differences between suppliers and perhaps the mislabeling of some components as other Macedonians (at any price) haven't been similar in quality or characteristics and none as potent.

    Stokkebye Perique:
    I've had it a short time but it's the best Perique that I've found (see notes above about lack of consistency across suppliers). Short story is that the original St. James Perique is no longer made. St. James was far more potent and, in my opinion, far superior. C&D Exclusive claims to use 50% Perique, an amount that would have been unsmokable for almost anyone if it had been made with the original St. James. Classic Perique mixtures, like Rattray's Red Rapparee were made with less than 10% St. James. Perique was noted for bringing a rich fruity sweetness with a lot of spice but that's diminished with what's available today. I've used the Stokkebye Perique up to 20% in test mixtures but it seems best in a supporting role at 10% or a little less where it enhances and spices but isn't forward.

    Stokkebye Latakia:
    Doesn't smell or smoke like it was processed with tar. Thinner cut and not as smokey as other Latakia that we use. I don't have experience with this component yet but in a couple of test mixtures it's a bit harder to mix but more evenly distributes with less settling. More as I use it.

    Stokkebye Kentucky Dark Fired:
    I like our Dark Fired that's a string cut (very thin) and I suspect that it's made by Stokkebye. If it is then we have more and if not it may present an alternative. The other Stokkebye blenders have been good quality.

    Eastern Carolina Ribbon:
    There was a time when Carolina was the king of tobacco, richer and more deeply sweet than Virginia. 35 years ago Carolina was defined as New, Middle and Old Belt. This Eastern Carolina (New Belt?) is very light and inoffensive but too bland to be more than a filler or diluting component. Wish I'd have ordered an ounce to try it but I was excited to try one of today's Carolinas.
    I have so much to learn about pipe tobacco..I'm still trying to learn to pack a bowl properly right now.....
    Like my father before me, I will work the land,
    And like my brother before me, I took a rebel stand.

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    Smoking sample "A" in a meerschaum, it is rather dry and has a hint of pepper around the edges.I agree with Jim in that it's a lot like a cigarette.The retro has a bit of burn not so much I quit trying.Tobacco is fairly easy to pack and light, and would make for a good work smoke.Seems pretty simple and I guess this is what you mean by one dimensional, but all in all a nice quick smoke to work by.
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    Smoking sample "D" in my DG Savoy.The pouch note reminds me of honey and sweet hay.It's a little on the moist side but not wet,packed and lit as easy as the others.Have to slow myself down a bit,the moisture is causing a small bit of tongue bite.It tastes like a toasted virginia,citrus with a smokiness.A hint of sweetness.The retro has just a hint of burn but a lot of twang,really adds to the bowl.I like this sample,it's got good character and even taste.Feels good,
    a nice cozy smoke.
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    Tried C tonight - the other guys are right, you have a winner here, Pete! Creamy, rich and satisfying, with great incense-like notes. Possibly my favorite of all your new blends so far (along with the Professor and Thomas Hariot).

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    Now come on..you guys must be getin a little tipsy there...aint none of ya writ like that before.....I want some of what ya drinkin...

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