I wish someone would stand-up to these people

[HIM]

I respect their right to make this kind of decision but this is really ridiculous. I can understand not allowing it on the job but what people do at home shouldn't matter if they show up sober and ready to work.

[Cool Breeze]

You should all move to Canada. Screening smokers is not legal here and cuban cigars are

You do make a convincing argument.
However I want to be able to go to Wal Mart and buy an AR-15 in less than 5 minutes and take it home, so I'll stay here.

[Brimy]

I agree with Cole. They should have that right for the workplace, but my time is just that, MY TIME!
And tobacco products are not like other "addicting" substance where it carries over into the rest of your life when not using it.
As far as non-smokers being more healthy...
...BULL $HIT!

[Monkey]

It's kind of funny my doctor doesn't seemed concerned with my cigar smoking at all. I'm diabetic so I gotta go in every three months for another blood test. Every so often they re-ask me all the obnoxious questions about medication, drugs and smoking. Last time I was there I mentioned cigar smoking and she said "If you don't inhale just don't even tell us about it". This would probably be different if I had mouth or throat cancer.

Basically they are taking the problems of cigarette smoking and applying it over-broadly to every tobacco product probably because there's no way to find only cigarette smokers. Therefore all nicotine is bad. This is especially funny because they won't hire people trying to quit smoking using patches or gum.

[Browns7213]

My problem is that this is a legal product that causes no impairment in your ability to perform tasks at their jobs. As Kayla, said next they will discriminate against obese people, people who consume alcohol, have red hair, etc. I see that the the policy does not affect current employees which leads me to believe there are a few higher up who enjoy their occasional cigar. I worked for a company that a had a designated smoking area behind the building near the trash bin so the smokers would be hidden from public view. Yet, if you were lucky enough be on the executive wing you would often smell cigar smoke emanating from the CEO's office.

[cheaphumidors]

[QUOTE=Monkey;23436]It's kind of funny my doctor doesn't seemed concerned with my cigar smoking at all. I'm diabetic so I gotta go in every three months for another blood test. Every so often they re-ask me all the obnoxious questions about medication, drugs and smoking. Last time I was there I mentioned cigar smoking and she said "If you don't inhale just don't even tell us about it". This would probably be different if I had mouth or throat cancer.
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I asked both my doctor and my dentist prior to starting smoking cigars and they both said not to worry about it, anything in moderation. In fact, my doctor is a cigar smoker himself.

[quo155]

Ignorance is bliss...

First, I too believe a private company should be able to dictate anything they want when hiring and employing. Of course, its ironic that there are a hundred other things that they can not discriminate against, but they choose to here...and it's acceptable. However, do they screen for alcoholism or even the casual drinker...who also tends to have too much on a Friday night and then gets into a car and drives drunk? No, they won't do that because they may drink too.

I'm digressing...off soapbox, NOW!

Anyway and with all of that said...the two major hospital systems here in Tyler do the same exact thing. One has been doing this for the past five years now.

[Sticky B]

It's not about what you do at home, it's about your "image" as a figure. They don't want their doctors/nurses being seen as "smokers", whether it be on or off the clock. Patients who see them off the clock smoking will still think the same thing if they see them at the hospital.

Big financial companies and the likes have been doing this for some time. I've seen quite a few non-tobacco use agreements for executives and the likes. You don't want the image of someone who might be hurting their health, or doing anything else that might be negative to the public eye, running the company.

I don't like it, and I don't necessarily agree with it, but hey, they does what they does.

That's why I too work for myself.

As for targeting obese people... FAT CHANCE! Like the grandfather clause was in there to protect the higher ups who still enjoy cigars, there are just too many obese people to try to attempt to pass rules against it in any way. Look at how many people who weren't even overweight were up-in-arms that the sizes of sodas was limited in NY for a moment...

It's currently cool to hate smokers, and cigarettes have really made that easy for society pull off. But disliking obese people usually ends up making you look like you're shallow and inconsiderate. Which may or may not be the case, lol.


Also- many obese people are funny, and that's likeable, so they have THAT going for them.

NOT FUNNY:






FUNNY:

[Branzig]

I get it. They're in the health care industry. But my wife works in health care. Guess what 90% of their staff do?

Over worked, under manned, and way over stressed. They all smoke a carton a day haha

[Lostmason]

Holy Spirit implements no-nicotine hiring policy


reducing health care costs

This is the true reason,with Obama care forcing companies to provide health care they have to reduce costs where they can.Also,I agree that the next targets will be obese,and quite likely people engaged in risky lifestyles such as sky diving and rock climbing.We already have employers that will fire you for comments on Fb and Twitter.Do we really have a private life anymore?