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Yeah, this is a complete joke. It's horrible for the cigar industry and will pretty much single handidly shut down the e-cigarette and vaping industry. All thanks to the grandfathering date of 2007. Why even select a date if you are going to pick one over 9 years in the past. Thats just a giant middle finger to a large portion of the country.
I know we are a cigar loving bunch of bums, but I can think of at least a dozen local places that will suddenly be out of business as they all make their own types of e-liquid. and other vape items.
How much tax revenue, and how many thousands of jobs will be lost in the name of "public health"?
Hell fellas with all our new neighbors from the middle east, it wont be long and you wont miss cigars, guns, bikinis, bacon or your families! BS
Sad to see. There is a clear as day link to big money support for something like this to happen. Why follow the spirit of the Constitution when you can cash in...
Big Tobacco is happy as hell right now. Crushes smaller competition and reduces consumer options. The E-cigarette market is now able to be dominated by big tobacco, they can afford to wait around for FDA approval and can pay the fees.
Also allows big tobacco companies the ability to pick up smaller brands (E-Cig and cigars) for pennies on the dollar and expand their foothold. Be on the lookout for "exciting" merger news...
As long as money plays this large of a roll in politics, we the American consumer will always loose...
Who does the premium cigar industry hurt? Nobody is rolling blunts with their Padron wrappers. Nobody is getting behind the wheel and killing someone because they just finished a Fuente. Kids aren't secretly smoking an Eastern Standard behind school. Who does it hurt? They aren't dangerous or highly addictive. I don't need a nanny, I'm a grown ass man. It also makes me mad as a small business owner. The big corporations and conglomerates will be fine, they can afford it. The little guys can't. Crush the little guy and let the rich get richer. Not to mention the consolidations and mergers that will happen. Medium/Little guys may be forced to sell out to General or Altadis to keep the doors open. Then the products suffer. I'll stop ranting.
Kris is right though. It would only apply to products legally sold in the U.S. So maybe Viva the Embargo?! This shit is just depressing.
I'm also interested to see how this impacts private sales of cigars and "bombs".
It would probably have to move completed underground if they are going to be treated like cigarettes...
No, they would have been shooting by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by DogRockets
Remember what they did when the British imposed a 3% tax on their breakfast drink.
I read a good portion of it but am at a loss for what exactly this means for cigars. About all I got is a large warning sticker.
That's why I won't buy/support anything that Annheiser Busch/InBev owns as they pull every trick they can think of to keep the little guy from making it as they own portions of the distribution, though it isn't allowed to work that way after prohibition was lifted. Sorry, there's no room on our trucks...Quote:
Originally Posted by jhedrick83
They also BS a portion of consumers who don't want to buy big name brand beer by selling (it escapes me now which one) something labeled as mom and pop owned, but when you go to the address it a Bud factory with no sign out for that "small" brand.
Beer Wars is one of two documentaries about this.
"Nobody is rolling blunts with their Padron wrappers."
Wait, what, nobody else is using a quality Churchill to roll up a quarter?