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    I am like the cryptkeeper of cigar secrets. I approve.

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    Condega

    Ligero

    Prelight: ketchup twang, light tobacco, maybe almond. Initial puffs: lots of body, high strength, lots of pepper, clean tasting. Very intense afterwards - gotta sip it. Maybe a bit of lemon zest (1/3). powerhouse. Residual - clean, but pastey tobacco. Bland, yet clean and pure. This leaf provides robust body and pepper mostly. Possibly nore woody/tea near 3/3

    Viso

    Hickory-ish, maybe a bit peaty/campfire-ish, peppery and hint of cool-to-the-taste on initial puffs. Thick smoke and flavor. Nutty-ness is more paste-y. Intense but light pepper, ane nips nicely on the tongue. Decent intensity - not a powerhouse. Mineral Oil.

    Seco

    Strength similar to viso; peppery intensity may be less, but maybe more pepper (quantity); lots of leather; steak-ish; some kinda fruity-sweetness; salty; diluted tea; oak or cedar (still not sure on these); strength lessens as does pepper; maybe a step down in wood as progressing; maybe almond if any nuts; ash doesn't hold nearly as long as viso; more bland as progessing.
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    Esteli

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    Initial Puffs: soft leather, very little intensity/strength; bit of graham cracker; bit of twang. Strength/intensity seems to have picked-up a lot after 3-4 puffs. Little pepper; bit of hear-spicy. Thought 'vinegar' couple puffs; later thought 'bit sour' - both faded. Approaching bland near 1/2. Maybe cream near 3/3. Acidic 3/3.

    Viso

    Initial Puffs: dryish; crackery; toasted cracker; darker pepper; not dark tasting; grainy residual; more intense body than seco; retrohale on the cusp of breathtaking; no sweetness; leather may be tucked away deeply (not indicating on wheel). More toasty cracker and dark pepper, yet profile isn't dark, though it's heavier than Condega.

    Ligero

    Prelight: Very spicy; twangy.

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    Jalapa

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    Heavier flavor; coffee and nutty; darker than Esteli.

    Viso

    Seed-y, darkish bread, cardboard, pasta-y (dried), tad acidic, soft tobacco flavor; tad toasty; fresh tobacco residual; there's a certain moistness to the taste; some kinda campfire dark cure taste I've encountered before; not much pepper through the retrohale; lots of mineral-y earthness; bolder than Condega, maybe Esteli; entire mouth burn when smoke held; THICK near 1/2 (smoke & taste); jalapeno-like spice; green pepper somewhat fits. Definitely green pepper (thyme in 3/3).

    Ligero

    Initial Puffs: cereal grains (bread, wheat); heavy darker pepper; pumpernickel; dry; crackers. Not as strong as other ligeros, but maybe more flavor. Bit jalapeno-spice if smoke rests in mouth. Big strength pick-up 1-inch in; much heavier. Seedy rather than nutty. Maybe hickory and cinnamon. Espresso-y residual.

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    Looks like we didn't sync up as much on the Esteli and Jalapa. Just goes to show on some sticks you'll have similar tastes; and with others - not so much.

    How'd you like the mystery stick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chain_gang View Post
    Looks like we didn't sync up as much on the Esteli and Jalapa. Just goes to show on some sticks you'll have similar tastes; and with others - not so much.

    How'd you like the mystery stick?
    I enjoyed it. I have one w/o wrapper and two wrapper only cigars for another dimension of testing. If anything, i learned how much blending has to do with it vs just a straight leaf.

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    @Tombstone

    You can post me and Matt's guesses now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCal gunner View Post
    @Tombstone

    You can post me and Matt's guesses now.
    For your viewing pleasure.


    Congrats - you've been selected to hold this guess till TJ's done and the mystery stick is revealed by Rojas. First guess based on my notes.

    Seco - Condega
    Viso - Esteli
    Ligero - Jalapa

    - - - Updated - - -

    @chain gang. TJs angelic words


    First, I wish I smoked all these back-to back-to back for a clearer memory of the different regions/primings.

    Second, I think human nature pushed me to pick one selection from each region.

    With that said, I'd guess: Condega Seco, Esteli Viso, and Jalapa Ligero as the blend, in that order over thirds of the cigar.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I don't know if the guesses were correct but you have proved great minds think alike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombstone View Post
    For your viewing pleasure.


    Congrats - you've been selected to hold this guess till TJ's done and the mystery stick is revealed by Rojas. First guess based on my notes.

    Seco - Condega
    Viso - Esteli
    Ligero - Jalapa

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    @chain gang. TJs angelic words


    First, I wish I smoked all these back-to back-to back for a clearer memory of the different regions/primings.

    Second, I think human nature pushed me to pick one selection from each region.

    With that said, I'd guess: Condega Seco, Esteli Viso, and Jalapa Ligero as the blend, in that order over thirds of the cigar.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I don't know if the guesses were correct but you have proved great minds think alike.
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