That one friend...

So is nicotine subjective like everything else? I've seen a few things mentioned that don't bother me but others that no one mentioned that kicked my but.

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Originally Posted by TreySC

So is nicotine subjective like everything else? I've seen a few things mentioned that don't bother me but others that no one mentioned that kicked my but.

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i think so an also i think a lot of pre cigar smoking and what you are drinking has to do with it. smoking on a empty stomach can really do you in and also if someone is drinking soda they have the sugar to help keep nicotine in control. i have smoke the jdn and i love them. didnt lay me out. i also had the Neanderthal and i loved it as well and didnt hurt me. i did have a LFD air bender at an event on an empty stomach and that one started to do me in towards the end but i was also very new to smoking at that time.

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Originally Posted by Demuths1770

i think so an also i think a lot of pre cigar smoking and what you are drinking has to do with it. smoking on a empty stomach can really do you in and also if someone is drinking soda they have the sugar to help keep nicotine in control. i have smoke the jdn and i love them. didnt lay me out. i also had the Neanderthal and i loved it as well and didnt hurt me. i did have a LFD air bender at an event on an empty stomach and that one started to do me in towards the end but i was also very new to smoking at that time.

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I understand all the pre smoking stuff. I try to never smoke on an empty stomach, unless I know it's a super mild cigar in the morning or something. I know people have different tolerances, but for instance Jericho Hill and Nica rustica were mentioned as being strong. I've never had issues with either one of those. But the other night I smoked an almost 4 year old Oliva V while drinking a coke and I got a little woozy when I finished. I only mentioned the age because I also thought nicotine dissipates over time.

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Originally Posted by projectsunfire

I 2nd the Punisher. I had one of "those" friends too and this one shut him up. It may have been the cayenne they seem to roll these in...made my lips burn like crazy. not enjoyable at all to me

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Saddly the Punishers are discontinued. They are great for a strong cigar.

The Surrogate Skull crusher? Skull Breaker? is a nice strong cigar also the Tatuaje Fausto and Avion.

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Originally Posted by Tombstone

Saddly the Punishers are discontinued. They are great for a strong cigar.

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oh really didnt know they were discontinued. I think I still have some left. Can't smoke them anymore. too strong

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Originally Posted by TreySC

I understand all the pre smoking stuff. I try to never smoke on an empty stomach, unless I know it's a super mild cigar in the morning or something. I know people have different tolerances, but for instance Jericho Hill and Nica rustica were mentioned as being strong. I've never had issues with either one of those. But the other night I smoked an almost 4 year old Oliva V while drinking a coke and I got a little woozy when I finished. I only mentioned the age because I also thought nicotine dissipates over time.

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I have had both the Jericho Hill and Nica Rustica and i had no problems. my friend who is newish to cigars even smoked a Jericho Hill and loved it. him and i also smoke Oliva V's as well and dont have problems

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Originally Posted by Demuths1770

I have had both the Jericho Hill and Nica Rustica and i had no problems. my friend who is newish to cigars even smoked a Jericho Hill and loved it. him and i also smoke Oliva V's as well and dont have problems

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Who knows it did start getting pretty cold maybe I just smoked to fast on the V

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Originally Posted by Desertlifter

+1 on the LFD Double Ligero, the B&A Entubar, and the Punisher.

The Entubar is one that flies under the radar. Not a bad smoke.

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Gonna have to hit you with some RG when I get to a comp. I think your the first person I've crossed paths with that's had a B&A. I've only smoked a few and it's been a while but I remember them packing some kick. Cool format as well.

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Originally Posted by TreySC

I know people have different tolerances, but for instance Jericho Hill and Nica rustica were mentioned as being strong. I've never had issues with either one of those....

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I think your just seeing the difference between peoples tolerances. Personally I would consider those more of a heavy medium but not full strength.

Somewhat on topic... While flavor and strength are two different things I think spice has a way of making cigars seem stronger than they are. A really peppery cigar will smoke heavier than a smooth cigar of the same strength IMO. Sometimes the power is in the profile you could say.

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Originally Posted by TreySC

I understand all the pre smoking stuff. I try to never smoke on an empty stomach, unless I know it's a super mild cigar in the morning or something. I know people have different tolerances, but for instance Jericho Hill and Nica rustica were mentioned as being strong. I've never had issues with either one of those. But the other night I smoked an almost 4 year old Oliva V while drinking a coke and I got a little woozy when I finished. I only mentioned the age because I also thought nicotine dissipates over time.

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It could also be that I had a bit of an empty stomach both times I've had a Nica Rustica. I usually smoke a few hours after dinner, so that very well could have skewed my perception of it being strong or not.

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Originally Posted by HIM

Gonna have to hit you with some RG when I get to a comp. I think your the first person I've crossed paths with that's had a B&A. I've only smoked a few and it's been a while but I remember them packing some kick. Cool format as well.

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I met Al Argenti at an event at my B&M a while back, and tried many if not most of his lines. Interesting stuff for sure. Lil Brown still has a bunch of BandA cigars, although I have read that the brand is no more. Dunno for sure on that.