CI "Fake" Cigars?

[Tman]

Your point is well taken, hindsight is 20/20 but it seems like Glynn is so busy bagging on CI he's neglected to mention the fact that if Blanco had simply refused to make the deal none of this would be an issue. He's obviously tight with Blanco so he's playing favorites and that's kind of a shitty way to do business.

Yeah, I really do think Bryan was trying to side for Blanco. I almost feel sorry for David Blanco now that I think about it. Pretty sure David didn't need anyone fighting his wars. I bet David probably thinks Bryan is a *insert name here* too.

[Sigaar]

Jeez, what is with the all the Bryan Glynn bashing here?! I don't know the guy, but have enjoyed watching many of his reviews, especially when I first became interested in cigars last year. Flame away, but I think he is good for the hobby and helps get people interested.

[jhedrick83]

Guys, dissenting opnions are good for a community and can be constructive. The thing is we need to keep it constructive. Constructive doesn't mean it has to be all positive mind you but it does mean we need to keep it on topic and refrain from making it personal with other members.

[spyder]

I'm not saying Bryan is any kind of expert and I'd imagine he'd say the same. But calling him a penis, fat, stupid, goofball, etc, etc. does nothing but degrade the discussion IMO. I guess I'm old school and don't think personal ridicules are warranted just because I don't like someone's opinion or they way they conduct themselves.

[Tman]

I apologize. I just think he (Bryan) should stick to reviewing cigars and not make it harder for the cigar makers than it already is. Remember that it all trickles down to us, the consumers, that pays the ultimate price. If you don't like the cigars? Fine. Don't buy them! No need to write them a letter. I hope we got better things to do in our lives.

[Tman]

I'm not saying Bryan is any kind of expert and I'd imagine he'd say the same. But calling him a penis, fat, stupid, goofball, etc, etc. does nothing but degrade the discussion IMO. I guess I'm old school and don't think personal ridicules are warranted just because I don't like someone's opinion or they way they conduct themselves.

I agree. In the same respect, calling cigar by a company "floor sweepings", "trash", "unsmokable", wouldn't you take that as a personal insult if it was your company? I know two wrongs don't make a right, but I also believe "eye for an eye".

[Billb1960]

I think Glynn probably thinks he's doing the right thing but IMO he could've done it differently and when he got his hand slapped instead of learning his lesson he decided to try to up the ante and now he's taken a tact that isn't going to end up with him looking good.

[Skeat5353]

I'm not saying Bryan is any kind of expert and I'd imagine he'd say the same. But calling him a penis, fat, stupid, goofball, etc, etc. does nothing but degrade the discussion IMO. I guess I'm old school and don't think personal ridicules are warranted just because I don't like someone's opinion or they way they conduct themselves.

You're right. And I'm not a man who resents another man's success. In fact, I'm the opposite. I praise and envy a man who has achieved success--maybe because I'm a total loser (I don't know). But I maintain my God-given right to judge the foundation of a man's success. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, then I have the right to call it a duck. How many cigars of the thousand Glynn has reviewed are not what they appear to be? Probably a lot. I'm not picking on Glynn, per se. I think the whole cigar industry needs an overhaul. Cigar marketers can still pass off garbage as premium, even though it's cheap premium. Honestly, though, I think the end of the Embargo is going to change all industry standards and all these so-called 'premium' blends will be put in their place. They'll be out of business, where they belong.

[Herf N Turf]

Okay, okay, OKAY!

Come on, guys. Hasn't this thread descended far enough into personal flaming and anarchic bashing such that we can say, "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH?"

Let's not forget that we are all MEMBERS of the general cigar community. Let's not forget that these blenders, rollers, manufacturers and vendors are solely here for OUR BENEFIT?

No one's out to "Fake" anyone and no one's out to intentionally rip anyone off!

If someone makes a $1.00 cigar you don't like, there's no problem in saying you don't like it, but NINETEEN PAGES of just going on and on and on and on...? Really?


How are you serving the cigar hobbyist community at large by perpetuating this sort of thing?

You lost me with the original title and the content lost me at about page 5.

Come on! We're better than this!