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Jumpin’ Railcars and Collectin' Cans
Y'all might find this interesting. It's a good episode but, it is queued up from youtube at 39m18s
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Jumpin’ Railcars and Collectin' Cans
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Advisor to Bum Wanabees

Originally Posted by
Marc L
So, against my better judgement I went to CO to read his drivel. After reading the responses from the retailers and manufacturers I come away with one opinion. A few of them are lying through their teeth in order to protect their business model and their image as a purveyor of premium cigars.
Formerly known as MDSPHOTO
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Bummin' Around

Originally Posted by
Browns7213
So, against my better judgement I went to CO to read his drivel. After reading the responses from the retailers and manufacturers I come away with one opinion. A few of them are lying through their teeth in order to protect their business model and their image as a purveyor of premium cigars.
Agree. And I think we know which ones, too.
I'm far from a CO/BG fan, and he definitely made some mistakes with this. But I have to give him some credit. He has a voice in the industry, and he's using it here for something worthwhile, something that definitely benefits consumers. I don't think any of these sellers are going to change their business practices overnight because of this. But he's managed to shine a fairly bright light on the issue, and has brought many of the major players in the industry into the discussion. I'm not sure what that's worth, but I think it's worth something.
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Bummin' Around
CI has updated the description on their site for the Blanco:
"Sink your teeth into this massively discounted blowout on Dominican handmades. Humidor-style chests, 4 blends, big sizes, prices under 2 bucks per cigar. This economical short-filler blend is perfect for mowing the lawn or handing out to cigar-wasting freeloaders.
The Maduro option presents sweet, rich, and hearty characteristics balanced by notes of espresso, cream, cocoa, and black pepper."
I have to give them [CI] some props for lending more clarity to what the product is while also bringing some levity to the whole situation. In the end, Glynn, CI and the consumer all win. Glynn ups his site traffic, as does CI and the consumer gets a little knowledge and transparency out of it all. They say even bad press is good press.
"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle."
-George Burns
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will bum for cigar
ok did i read that right BG wants ALL OF HIS VIEWERS to email cigar manufactures and retailers asking if they make and sell real cigars???? thats rediculous. these companiesa are going to be FLOODED with pointless emails because he got a spank on the hand?? i find this move as very bad taste by him imo
Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle- George Burns
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Ruler Of The Galaxy

Originally Posted by
Demuths1770
ok did i read that right BG wants ALL OF HIS VIEWERS to email cigar manufactures and retailers asking if they make and sell real cigars???? thats rediculous. these companiesa are going to be FLOODED with pointless emails because he got a spank on the hand?? i find this move as very bad taste by him imo
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
What about us viewers who only watch occasionally to laugh at him?
Self Obsession, indeed!
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Jumpin’ Railcars and Collectin' Cans

Originally Posted by
Demuths1770
ok did i read that right BG wants ALL OF HIS VIEWERS to email cigar manufactures and retailers asking if they make and sell real cigars???? thats rediculous. these companiesa are going to be FLOODED with pointless emails because he got a spank on the hand?? i find this move as very bad taste by him imo
Yes, it looks like he did ask his viewers to contact them.
Is this a bad idea?
I don't think so. If those manufacturers and retails are flooded with emails, it will show them exactly how many people that they are marketing to, care about this issue.
BG maybe be over the top and hot headed, but at the heart of the issue he is right. If they totally re-blend a cigar like they did, pack it in the same boxes and labels as the original stuff and claim that it's simply a big savings and make zero mention of the re-blend, to short filler (or floor sweepings as described). That IMO, equates to bait and switch.
Fear of public knowledge and its subsequent backlash is a big motivator...
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will bum for cigar

Originally Posted by
Upstatemax
Yes, it looks like he did ask his viewers to contact them.
Is this a bad idea?
I don't think so. If those manufacturers and retails are flooded with emails, it will show them exactly how many people that they are marketing to, care about this issue.
BG maybe be over the top and hot headed, but at the heart of the issue he is right. If they totally re-blend a cigar like they did, pack it in the same boxes and labels as the original stuff and claim that it's simply a big savings and make zero mention of the re-blend, to short filler (or floor sweepings as described). That IMO, equates to bait and switch.
Fear of public knowledge and its subsequent backlash is a big motivator...
it is stated it is not a "bait and switch" rebanded cigar but instead a short filler cigar that was just not stated as a short filler but at close to 2 dollars a stick that should go unspoken that it would not be a great long filler cigar, common sense.
Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle- George Burns
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Jumpin’ Railcars and Collectin' Cans

Originally Posted by
Demuths1770
it is stated it is not a "bait and switch" rebanded cigar but instead a short filler cigar that was just not stated as a short filler but at close to 2 dollars a stick that should go unspoken that it would not be a great long filler cigar, common sense.
The original versions of those cigars were long filler...
IMO, it's unethical to market a cigar like it's the original thing when, clearly, it's not.
The new description does that. It's the right thing to do.