boutique cigar talk

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Originally Posted by allusred

The labeling of cigars as Boutique by some online companies is a problem only until you understand that each and every line they are pushing is
either Premium, Super Premium, Ultra Premium, Limited Edition ,Small Batch or Boutique. And far too often some combination of several or ALL these terms.
Nevertheless the seller is able, but only for a very limited time, so you absolutely must act ($pend) right now, else these cigars will be gone forever.
But if you act super fast you may be able to get these Unique Small Batch Ultra Premium Limited Edition Boutique Masterpieces for $17.99 *with free shipping* for a box of 25 6x66 Perfectos.

How can anyone pass something like that up?

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thats a marketing plan that companies use selling to the general public. any cigar geek is not going to fall for that.

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Originally Posted by Demuths1770

the end of boutique cigars was what was discussed on the cigar authority and think they its the end.

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Yeah, well, they also thought all Cuban blending had ended, so...

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Originally Posted by StogieNinja

Yeah, well, they also thought all Cuban blending had ended, so...

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yeah it was just a topic to get people talking and thinking about that part of the market... i no where said i agree with them or they said it so they are right. it was simply to get people active and talking

I don't think it's the end of boutique cigars, I think it's coming close to where "boutique" is becoming a cliché in the cigar industry.

Boutique to me means total production - not production in a line, or limited edition. It's a small company that only puts out a small amount of cigars overall compared to the "big guys."

If I started rolling my own cigars, and only made 1,000 per year, they would be boutique cigars. If those were wildly popular and the identical blend, approved by me, was manufactured by General Cigar as Stonecutter2 Coronas, limited edition of only 150,000 - they are no longer boutique, they are produced en masse compared to small time production as they once were.

Everyone espouses the boutique buzzword right now, but they've diluted its meaning. It's not the end of boutique cigars, it's likely nearing the end of calling so many things boutique cigars. There will always be small time manufacturers putting out awesome stogies on a limited availability basis...but they'll get called something new to differentiate themselves.

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Originally Posted by stonecutter2

I don't think it's the end of boutique cigars, I think it's coming close to where "boutique" is becoming a cliché in the cigar industry.

Boutique to me means total production - not production in a line, or limited edition. It's a small company that only puts out a small amount of cigars overall compared to the "big guys."

If I started rolling my own cigars, and only made 1,000 per year, they would be boutique cigars. If those were wildly popular and the identical blend, approved by me, was manufactured by General Cigar as Stonecutter2 Coronas, limited edition of only 150,000 - they are no longer boutique, they are produced en masse compared to small time production as they once were.

Everyone espouses the boutique buzzword right now, but they've diluted its meaning. It's not the end of boutique cigars, it's likely nearing the end of calling so many things boutique cigars. There will always be small time manufacturers putting out awesome stogies on a limited availability basis...but they'll get called something new to differentiate themselves.

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Agreed.

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Originally Posted by StogieNinja

Agreed.

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I humbly propose that henceforth any true "boutique cigar" should be referred to simply as "a stonecutter."

:cowstogie:

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so to go a small step futher can a large company produce a boutique cigar? same question asked can a large beer company like miller coors make a craft beer? break down tatuaje and look how popular the main lines are but than the monsters, m80s, drinking age, and so on are such a smaller lines but still produced by a larger company

My 2 cents

In my opinion, a boutique cigar company is a smaller company with low production and limited lines. Of course there will be limited availability because of the low production.

Big company, small release with limited availability is just that.... a limited release, a store exclusive, etc... Not a boutique.

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Originally Posted by Demuths1770

the monsters, m80s, drinking age, and so on are such a smaller lines but still produced by a larger company

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Those are just limited releases.

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Originally Posted by Demuths1770

...same question asked can a large beer company like miller coors make a craft beer?

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Yes, they can produce a 'craft beer' but they cannot produce micro brew beer. I don't care what they say, they're simply not a micro brewery and any attempt to pass themselves or a particular line off as such is pure hogwash.

Same with cigars IMO. To me, 'boutique' means 'little mom and pop cigar rolling operation'. Limited releases by tobacco giants are not boutique cigars. Neither are formerly small operations bought out by said tobacco giants. Goose Island brewing company was bought out by Anheuser Busch. To me, that's the end of their 'micro brewery' status.