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Jumpin’ Railcars and Collectin' Cans
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Originally Posted by
droy1958
That's higher than giraffe pu$$y to me, but with hunting, fishing, farming and such I don't have the disposable cash to buy cigars like that.....
You have hit the upon the reality of life whether it be cigars or cars or anything that we affix a value or worth i.e.
worth the time, money, or effort spent; of value or importance. We tend to follow a definition that others place before us and that usually is marketing and advertising for a product. Billions are spent in the sales of commodities and it is a powerful medium by which to assuage the buyer that what they value can be sold in words/visuals instead of letting the consumer judge for themselves. One of the things I love about this hobby is that Veteran Cigar Smokers aren't easily fooled and they are by nature pretty truthful people and aren't swayed by ads or commercials. There is a passion among us that we search out "truth" in the cigars we smoke and if it's good then we'll smoke it and sometimes it has a cost that we will debate within our own minds....the definition of diminishing returns as the brother mentions is spot on because it's the individual who makes the call. I can afford a pleasure until it costs me more than the investment I put into it and when that happens it has diminished value. There are a few cigars that happen to hurt my wallet but don't decrease in the pleasure of smoking them and should they ever come with a cost that is far too expensive then I guess I'll have to smoke half of what I usually smoke.
Reading threads and posts in Cigar Forums is not just about tobacco and brands but it's a peek into the psychology of who we are and how we perceive the world around us and for generations cigar smokers were judged on a false narrative of being snobbish and obtrusive but in reality as I've noticed for a long time that cigar smokers are people who really know what they like and will tell it like it is. To a lot of those who have a disdain for the tobacco leaf they tend to judge us because of an aroma and a perceived personality of someone who is "cock-sure" about what they like and don't like and that is what makes anti tobacco philosophy so popular where they feel the need to control those around them. If it was really about the threat of second hand smoke etc. why wouldn't they fix the bigger threats of pollution that are around us instead of something so benign as a cigar? Sorry for digressing as it occurred to me while writing this post that I get thoughts that come out of right field on occasion and feel I have to chase it down to a conclusion.
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Royal Bum
Not a problem mate. All people have their limits on cigar prices, and we also have folks who'll suck a tailpipe of a Mercedes and bitch about cigar smoke......
Like my father before me, I will work the land,
And like my brother before me, I took a rebel stand.
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Originally Posted by
droy1958
Not a problem mate. All people have their limits on cigar prices, and we also have folks who'll suck a tailpipe of a Mercedes and bitch about cigar smoke......
Signature line if I ever read one!!
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Royal Bum

Originally Posted by
FidelCastro
You have hit the upon the reality of life whether it be cigars or cars or anything that we affix a value or worth i.e.
worth the time, money, or effort spent; of value or importance. We tend to follow a definition that others place before us and that usually is marketing and advertising for a product. Billions are spent in the sales of commodities and it is a powerful medium by which to assuage the buyer that what they value can be sold in words/visuals instead of letting the consumer judge for themselves. One of the things I love about this hobby is that Veteran Cigar Smokers aren't easily fooled and they are by nature pretty truthful people and aren't swayed by ads or commercials. There is a passion among us that we search out "truth" in the cigars we smoke and if it's good then we'll smoke it and sometimes it has a cost that we will debate within our own minds....the definition of diminishing returns as the brother mentions is spot on because it's the individual who makes the call. I can afford a pleasure until it costs me more than the investment I put into it and when that happens it has diminished value. There are a few cigars that happen to hurt my wallet but don't decrease in the pleasure of smoking them and should they ever come with a cost that is far too expensive then I guess I'll have to smoke half of what I usually smoke.
Reading threads and posts in Cigar Forums is not just about tobacco and brands but it's a peek into the psychology of who we are and how we perceive the world around us and for generations cigar smokers were judged on a false narrative of being snobbish and obtrusive but in reality as I've noticed for a long time that cigar smokers are people who really know what they like and will tell it like it is. To a lot of those who have a disdain for the tobacco leaf they tend to judge us because of an aroma and a perceived personality of someone who is "cock-sure" about what they like and don't like and that is what makes anti tobacco philosophy so popular where they feel the need to control those around them. If it was really about the threat of second hand smoke etc. why wouldn't they fix the bigger threats of pollution that are around us instead of something so benign as a cigar? Sorry for digressing as it occurred to me while writing this post that I get thoughts that come out of right field on occasion and feel I have to chase it down to a conclusion.
Well said on all fronts.
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I only smoke a couple of cigars a month and almost all of the cigars I buy seem to be in the $8-$12 range. Rarely will I spend more. If I smoked more often I would have to adjust accordingly. But when I only smoke probably 25 cigars a year, it isn't very expensive.
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Originally Posted by
Old Smokey
I only smoke a couple of cigars a month and almost all of the cigars I buy seem to be in the $8-$12 range. Rarely will I spend more. If I smoked more often I would have to adjust accordingly. But when I only smoke probably 25 cigars a year, it isn't very expensive.
I'm with Steve here. If I get to smoke 6 cigars in a month I was tearing it up. Usually I'm good for 3-4. Because of that I'm willing to go a little higher if it's something I know won't disappoint (read Fuente). On the dark side, it's rare to see much above the $12 a stick unless it's a limited edition or an LCDH release or Cohiba. Some are worth it, most are not IMO.
Like some of the other guys have said, it's all about personal preference. If you think a cigar is worth $15 and you have the money, go for it. If you think no cigar is worth $15 then don't buy them! The reality is that this is a hobby where we literally light our purchases on fire. So do it your way as long as you enjoy it.
"Hate, it has caused a lot of problems in the world, but has not solved one yet."
― Maya Angelou
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Royal Bum
Exactly! Like what you smoke, smoke what you like! Same thing with your money - spend as you see fit! Heck, I blew this months cigar budget supporting single moms that could barely afford to dress themselves in Vegas!
I've had wonderful experiences with $3 cigars and tossed $25 cigars at less than halfway. Find a company, roller/blender, wrapper or filler that you like and a price point appropriate for you. Don't worry about (or hate) the guy that smokes $100 sticks - focus on what you like.
Seriously, so much goes into the cigar experience like atmosphere, company (or lack of), mood, music, drink, etc. that I'd put $ way down on the list.
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will bum for cigar
im willing to try one and probably will at some point but i wont be going and buying a box of them. i am usually good for 6-10 cigars a month and at that point spending 10-15$ on those cigars dose not hurt my feelings since its something i enjoy to do and am not doing it on a regular basis. I can justify spending a pretty penny on a cigar every now and than. Some of them i have regretted others where good
Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle- George Burns
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Jumpin’ Railcars and Collectin' Cans
That is a lot for a cigar. When I'm shopping online, I usually spend between $3-$5 per stick.
In a B&M, I usually spend between $7-$12. Usually for similar or the SAME cigar that I'm getting for $3-$5 online. But I also know I need to do my part to keep the local places going so I "pay my tax".
Usually I don't smoke super premium sticks because I have a hard time justifying the price vs satisfaction for me. But, about twice a year I like to let loose and have something outside of my usual budget, usually in the mid $20 range.
The most I've ever spent was $30 on a special Padron release from a B&M. My wife got me a gift card to a local shop for Fathers Day and specifically told me to "spoil myself, get something that I would not normally buy". So, I shut my eyes and bought it! It was a GREAT cigar, but I would never buy it again. Not because I can't afford it, because I can get close to that cigar for WAY less $$ and I enjoy them nearly as much.
I have a lot of hobbies and all of them can be very financially draining. I had to learn long ago that you just have to learn when "enough is enough".
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