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    Temp and humidity are very important, if you're 63f and 63% your still on the wet side. If you ran the temp up to 70f it would probably be over 70%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanS View Post
    Temp and humidity are very important, if you're 63f and 63% your still on the wet side. If you ran the temp up to 70f it would probably be over 70%.
    Thats the information I cannot find or maybe just don't understand when I do find it. I cannot find anything that easily compares the two.

    I do know that I dropped the RH by 3 points after drying, so it is at least better than before and back where I liked it prior to the RH creeping up.

    *edited* I use adjustable hygrometers and calibrated them using 62% Boveda packs at that temperature, so they RH reading should be accurate.

    The cigars I had in tupperdores with the same rh Boveda packs and temp smoke just fine with no burn issues or getting squishy in the final third. I'm aware that they will be wetter than a cigar at 63% and 70 degrees but they certainly don't smoke like any I have had stored at 70% at 70 degrees did.
    Last edited by Hardheaded; 07-17-2017 at 02:30 PM.

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    I used to have a chart that showed how temp affects humidity, lost when we moved. I'll try to locate a new one, and post it.
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    Food for thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanS View Post
    Temp and humidity are very important, if you're 63f and 63% your still on the wet side. If you ran the temp up to 70f it would probably be over 70%.
    I'd have to respectfully disagree with this. 63% RH with 63 degree temps aren't going to be on the wet side at all. 65% RH is a common range whereas temps at 70 F would move the RH needle to around 67%. One could keep their temps at around 75 F and keep their RH at 63% and still be ok. The real issues are when their are extreme numbers on one side or the other and temps should never be over 76-78 unless you are keeping your RH at 60....but even then I'd probably not endorse those kinds of numbers. The 70/70 is a real number but few will follow that because of the issues of keeping ones cigars lit so quite a few will keep their RH @65%. Another variable is bouncing numbers as that creates havoc over time when resting our cigars. Tobacco will go through changes when the numbers go up and down and stability is important which is why wine a dors are so popular. The summer months tend to make things a challenge because some don't want to pay for A/C energy bills to keep their cigars at optimum temps so we end up playing with a combination of RH/Temps that will get us through those hot sticky months. For those with basements we're lucky because we can store our cigars there where basements usually keep a 70 degree average temperature. At any rate these things are not written in stone as much as we tend to follow our noses when it comes to what WE want in our cigars regardless of RH/Temps. As long as were not making it an incubation chamber for mold or beetles then we try to keep things stable and carry on.

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    As an addendum to the 70/70 rule that number is for tobacco as it is associated in a growing environment and not a recipe for storage. Tobacco thrives when it is in a 70/70 and not so much in storage and most of us know. Nothing worse than a cigar that is wet and you feel like you're sucking a golf ball through a garden hose.

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