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LazyLightning
03-07-2017, 12:32 PM
Hi Folks,
I was putting an order together last night and put a few in the cart that I know I like so far, but hit a wall on new ones to try. I was wondering what some of you guys would suggest based on the few I have found I really like as well as what I am looking for?

I know there are some sticks that people will say stay away from at first and work yourself up to them, if just starting due to strength (but to me it seems like they are referring to someone who has never smoked anything before) I was a heavy cigarette smoker for nearly 30 years and have moved onto pipe smoking for almost 2 yrs now, so nic strength is not an issue. Plus I smoke some vitamin N heavy tobacco blends almost daily. I just need to ween myself off these last 4-5 cigarettes a day and I will finally have that monkey off my back.

Anyhow, got a bit sidetracked, sorry about that.
Here are some cigars that I really like so far:
Padron: 2000 Natural
Padron: 2000 Maduro
My Father: Le Bijou 1922 Petit Robusto
Oliva: Serie G Cameroon Special G
Oliva: Serie G Maduro Special G
Arturo Fuente Curly Head Deluxe

I have been keeping a "journal" like I did when I started smoking pipes, on what I have smoked, how I liked it, the flavor profile I get from it, etc...

I really like rich flavors in about anything I do. But I am not opposed to a simple one dimensional smoke, that is a good all day any day smoke. Sort of the "Carter Hall" of the cigar world.

As far as price range, I am looking for something in the $5 and under range and a few suggestions in the $10 and under (if your suggesting singles). Remember I am trying to wrap my head around the different tobaccos, sizes, and everything else right now. Once I get my bearings and start seeing where my palette takes me I can start zeroing in on some higher priced sticks. I would think samplers are a great place to start, and there are a lot to choose from over on Famous, I just don't know which ones would be best.

Hope this isn't the ramblings of a ignorant newbie!

And thanks in advance for any help!

Almost forgot, what is the best Boveda pack to use? I have been using 72% and the cigars seem to be doing well, but is there an advantage to using a lower one like 65% or 69%, or higher? Currently I am using a tupperdor if that matters.

Again, thanks for any help.

AlanS
03-07-2017, 12:44 PM
65% for NC's, 62% for CC's

TreySC
03-07-2017, 12:58 PM
I would explore more into the lines you know you like. Padron's are going to get expensive once you get out of the X000 series.

If you like the Le bijou look for other things from the Gracia family of tobacco Oliva and Fuente also have a pretty big catalog with some affordable smokes.

As far as other low cost options especially on cbid look into Diesel, Man-o-War, pretty much anything form AJ Fernandez is good.


65% boveda especially in tupperador will be perfect.

Brimy
03-07-2017, 02:40 PM
Hope this isn't the ramblings of a ignorant newbie!

And thanks in advance for any help!

Hi Lazy!

In my time here (since its inception in 2015) I have NEVER experienced being berated for asking ANY question. So no matter how simple you think it may be or no matter how many times its been asked, if you need some direction or clarification, go right ahead and ask!

That being said, I too am a cigarette smoker and seem to be immune to vitamin N and like a stronger cigar. But in my journey I've come to appreciate a flavorful cigar no matter the strength. I've dabbled with the pipe and still do occasionally but not to the point where I can really comment on the vitamin N and flavors that the different pipe tobaccos present.

Since you appreciate flavors, I appreciate a good Cameroon, maduro and Oscuro wrapper. As for makers, I haven't smoked a DPG (Don Pepin Garcia) that I haven’t enjoyed. I like AJF smokes. Casa Fernandez, RoMa Craft, Regius to name a few.

I like both CC's & NC's at 65%.

Brimy
03-07-2017, 02:47 PM
There are also some "cheapies" that become really nice with 6+ months rest on them.

Ramon Bueso Genesis
Obsidian Black label

Emperor Zurg
03-07-2017, 03:26 PM
Obsidian Black label

I like these. They have a nice chocolaty flavor that almost reminds me of smoking Bob's Chocolate Flake.
I've found you need to draw gently on them or they give off a nasty resinous flavor. Plenty enjoyable for the price though if you treat them right.

Brimy
03-07-2017, 03:38 PM
I like these. They have a nice chocolaty flavor that almost reminds me of smoking Bob's Chocolate Flake.
I've found you need to draw gently on them or they give off a nasty resinous flavor. Plenty enjoyable for the price though if you treat them right.

Agree 100%!!

restomod
03-07-2017, 04:23 PM
I second Trey on the Diesel's and Brian on the Roma Craft, cant go wrong I feel. Also Undercrown, Crowned Heads (virtually any), Joya Cuatro Cinco, CAO Flatheads.

jhedrick83
03-07-2017, 04:30 PM
65% for NC's, 62% for CC's
I'd second that.

As for recommendations:
Fuente 8-5-8 maduro
Fuente Chateau Maduro
Fuente Hemingway Short Story maduro
Fuente Hemingway Short Story Natural (Cameroon Wrapper)
Fuente Petit Corona Maduro
Fuente Churchill Maduro
Holt's (Shop Premium Cigars & Deals Online | Holt's Cigar Company (http://www.holts.com)) is a great place for Fuente
601 (blue bands) Robustos or Toros (used to be on Cigar Bid a lot)
Illusione Rothchildes (you can find them for $3-$4 a stick are are awesome!)
Brick House Maduro (made by Fuente for J.C. Newman)
L'Atelier MAD44
La Gloria Cubana Serie R Maduro
Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970
Sancho Panza Double Maduro
Oliva Master Blends 3 (Holts also has great prices on these including this sampler Oliva Master Blends Monster Deal - Featured Samplers - Samplers (http://www.holts.com/samplers/featured-samplers/oliva-master-blends-monster-deal.html))
Punch Bareknuckles
Don Pepin Garcia Cuban Classic in the 1979 size (Again, cheaper on Cbid usually)

LazyLightning
03-07-2017, 04:38 PM
Thanks for all the feedback , it's always much appreciated!

I will take these suggestions and go finish my order off. For me right now it's all about finding what I like and as I go along, getting a better feel for what I might like as my knowledge grows.

I am already finding that a nice cigar between pipes is a great way to mix things up in terms of the differences in flavor profiles. It has also helped me finally realize those last 5 cigarettes a day are about to become a thing of the past.

Nature
03-07-2017, 08:17 PM
Oh my, the slide has been greased!

You've some great suggestions from the Bum family already, so I don't have too much more to offer at this time.
I concur with nearly every suggestion given.
Have fun, and hang on to your britches. (maybe your wallet too!) :greengrin:

projectsunfire
03-07-2017, 08:28 PM
Hold on...I got this...

Results for category - Samplers - CigarBid.com (http://www.cigarbid.com/Category/Samplers/?BonusBuyOnly=False&IsCatPage=True&AuctionFilters=&CategoryFilters=Samplers&PageSize=10000&ViewType=list&SpecialSearch=True&SpecialSearchDisplay=&keyword=&SortOrder=alpha)

AlanS
03-08-2017, 01:56 AM
This just came out, heck of a buy for 14 cigars. Less than $3 a stick.
http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w366/awssr58/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-03/20170307_225045_zps3yrz4jqo.jpg (http://s1072.photobucket.com/user/awssr58/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-03/20170307_225045_zps3yrz4jqo.jpg.html)
Famous Smoke Shop

LazyLightning
03-08-2017, 02:28 AM
Ok I finally put an order together consisting of:

5pk-Arturo Fuente Curly Head Deluxe
5pk-Oliva Serie G Maduro Special G
5pk-Arturo Fuente 858
5pk-Arturo Fuente Hemingway Short Story (natural)

As well as a Boveda 65% pk
And a couple of MM I have been wanting to try.

Because my order was over $100.00 I can choose one of 2 5pks or a 4pk, keeping with what I said I like so far which would you guys recommend?

Avo Syncro Nicaragua Toro-4pk
Partagas 1845 Extra Oscuro Robusto-5pk
Romeo Reserve Robusto-5pk

I'm thinking either the Avo or Romeo Reserve, but I am just guessing. Maybe The Partagas are really good too?

Again thanks for all the help, I'm off to bed and will finish the order when I see what you guys suggest in the morning. Have a great day folks!

allusred
03-08-2017, 02:47 AM
Can't do better'n echoing Tennessee Jed's advide given earlier.
S'longs from time to time you pair up Jerry Garcia & Pepin Garcia you'll be enjoying the trip.

Ciro
03-08-2017, 07:34 AM
All great recommendations and I would agree with what most have noted on getting sampler packs. Gives you a little variety without committing to larger quantities. You could also look into "Monthly Cigar Clubs". Takes the thought process out of it.

Brimy
03-08-2017, 09:29 AM
Thanks for all the feedback , it's always much appreciated!

I will take these suggestions and go finish my order off. For me right now it's all about finding what I like and as I go along, getting a better feel for what I might like as my knowledge grows.

I am already finding that a nice cigar between pipes is a great way to mix things up in terms of the differences in flavor profiles. It has also helped me finally realize those last 5 cigarettes a day are about to become a thing of the past.


Ok I finally put an order together consisting of:

5pk-Arturo Fuente Curly Head Deluxe
5pk-Oliva Serie G Maduro Special G
5pk-Arturo Fuente 858
5pk-Arturo Fuente Hemingway Short Story (natural)

As well as a Boveda 65% pk
And a couple of MM I have been wanting to try.

Because my order was over $100.00 I can choose one of 2 5pks or a 4pk, keeping with what I said I like so far which would you guys recommend?

Avo Syncro Nicaragua Toro-4pk
Partagas 1845 Extra Oscuro Robusto-5pk
Romeo Reserve Robusto-5pk

I'm thinking either the Avo or Romeo Reserve, but I am just guessing. Maybe The Partagas are really good too?

Again thanks for all the help, I'm off to bed and will finish the order when I see what you guys suggest in the morning. Have a great day folks!

The Partagas Extra Oscuro is a nice smoke and ive heard a lot of good things about the Avo.

jhedrick83
03-08-2017, 11:22 AM
Hold on...I got this...

Results for category - Samplers - CigarBid.com (http://www.cigarbid.com/Category/Samplers/?BonusBuyOnly=False&IsCatPage=True&AuctionFilters=&CategoryFilters=Samplers&PageSize=10000&ViewType=list&SpecialSearch=True&SpecialSearchDisplay=&keyword=&SortOrder=alpha)

Why are you so mean?


Ok I finally put an order together consisting of:

5pk-Arturo Fuente Curly Head Deluxe
5pk-Oliva Serie G Maduro Special G
5pk-Arturo Fuente 858
5pk-Arturo Fuente Hemingway Short Story (natural)

As well as a Boveda 65% pk
And a couple of MM I have been wanting to try.

Because my order was over $100.00 I can choose one of 2 5pks or a 4pk, keeping with what I said I like so far which would you guys recommend?

Avo Syncro Nicaragua Toro-4pk
Partagas 1845 Extra Oscuro Robusto-5pk
Romeo Reserve Robusto-5pk

I'm thinking either the Avo or Romeo Reserve, but I am just guessing. Maybe The Partagas are really good too?

Again thanks for all the help, I'm off to bed and will finish the order when I see what you guys suggest in the morning. Have a great day folks!

I'd go Avo but I've never had the Partagas. I don't think you will go wrong with either. The Romeo Reserves were nasty to me, but that could be just me.

Old Smokey
03-08-2017, 11:56 AM
The Romeo Reserves were nasty to me, but that could be just me.

I thought you preferred it nasty? No?

projectsunfire
03-08-2017, 01:14 PM
Why are you so mean?

That hurts my delicate & tender feelings

jhedrick83
03-08-2017, 01:22 PM
I thought you preferred it nasty? No?

I actually prefer my women like I prefer my coffee. Ground up and in the freezer.

TreySC
03-08-2017, 01:49 PM
Hold on...I got this...

Results for category - Samplers - CigarBid.com (http://www.cigarbid.com/Category/Samplers/?BonusBuyOnly=False&IsCatPage=True&AuctionFilters=&CategoryFilters=Samplers&PageSize=10000&ViewType=list&SpecialSearch=True&SpecialSearchDisplay=&keyword=&SortOrder=alpha)

Might want to wait for cbid to get their new system working right. I'm still waiting on a 5er of Oliva V's to complete my last order

Emperor Zurg
03-08-2017, 02:30 PM
I actually prefer my women like I prefer my coffee. Ground up and in the freezer.

And here I thought you were going to say 'strong, black and bitter' :p

Old Smokey
03-08-2017, 03:36 PM
I actually prefer my women like I prefer my coffee. Ground up and in the freezer.

So, kind of like hot wings? Boneless, spicy and wet?

restomod
03-08-2017, 03:57 PM
lol you guys crack me up...

http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag446/lusecannon/scaled_zpszcynchok.jpg (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/lusecannon/media/scaled_zpszcynchok.jpg.html)

Brimy
03-08-2017, 04:28 PM
And here I thought you were going to say 'strong, black and bitter' :p

How'd you know that's my preference?!

jhedrick83
03-08-2017, 04:57 PM
lol you guys crack me up...

http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag446/lusecannon/scaled_zpszcynchok.jpg (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/lusecannon/media/scaled_zpszcynchok.jpg.html)

Sorry... :wedgie:

restomod
03-08-2017, 05:04 PM
Sorry... :wedgie:

Totally kidding, I needed an excuse to use that pic!

LazyLightning
03-08-2017, 05:56 PM
So I decided on the Partagas 1845 Extra Oscuro Robusto 5pk for my freebie. I will try Avo eventually, but this order will help me on my journey. Again, thanks everyone for all the suggestions.

Now, the wait...

Emperor Zurg
03-08-2017, 08:11 PM
Now, the wait...

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/5f/5f2496bcdb8dc8171ac209a3bf4a0e599bb7ea5336c6a75f81 90fa8f7bc21dcb.jpg

allusred
03-08-2017, 08:18 PM
That hurts my delicate & tender feelings

Will be watching for your next post once you've spent however much time needed in your Safe Place...hopefully you have a goodly supply of coloring books and crayons to last your Snowflake time away,heartfelt best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery.

allusred
03-08-2017, 08:26 PM
So, kind of like hot wings? Boneless, spicy and wet?

Healthy lad as reckon Jesse to be, was thinking he'd be a thigh man.

allusred
03-08-2017, 08:34 PM
How'd you know that's my preference?!

Mind reading goes with a finely tuned mind, and the Emperor has Crystal.
Of course I mean A Crystal Ball.
Perhaps a matched set?

allusred
03-08-2017, 08:36 PM
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/5f/5f2496bcdb8dc8171ac209a3bf4a0e599bb7ea5336c6a75f81 90fa8f7bc21dcb.jpg

Tables ?

LazyLightning
03-14-2017, 11:42 AM
Hi everyone,
This morning a box of goodness from Famous was delivered. Again a big thank you to everyone that helped with suggestions, I have them written down and will get some of those I wasn't able to get this time, on another order.

Quick Question,
Both the 858's and the Partagas 1845 came with a thin strip of what I am assuming is Spanish cedar. Most of the guys I talked to before coming to CigarBum (as well as other written and video sources), suggested putting these strips and or pieces of cigar boxes into my tupperdor. I went with the 65% boveda pack as you folks suggested and just wanted to double check about the wood going in with everything.

At least I assume it's Spanish Cedar, I am not much into woodworking so not sure how to tell. Do I need to do anything to them before putting them into the tupperdor (wipe down with distilled water, etc...?)

Thanks!

Kidvegas
03-14-2017, 11:57 AM
If it came inside the box then yes it's a thin piece of spanish cedar! I wouldn't worry about sticking in the bottom of your tupper. That's exactly what I've always done. You don't need to wipe it at all, it's very thin and will help buffer your RH without causing any problems.



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jhedrick83
03-14-2017, 01:07 PM
If it came inside the box then yes it's a thin piece of spanish cedar! I wouldn't worry about sticking in the bottom of your tupper. That's exactly what I've always done. You don't need to wipe it at all, it's very thin and will help buffer your RH without causing any problems.



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Yeah, just chuck them in there. You don't need to do anything to them, they may not help a ton but everything helps. Looking forward to seeing what you think about them.

LazyLightning
03-14-2017, 06:39 PM
Yea,
They came with the Partagas 1845 Extra Oscuro & A.F. 858 5pks
http://i.imgur.com/HPN1WhM.jpg

LazyLightning
03-17-2017, 12:11 PM
One last question if you folks don't mind? I believe the answer is that it is fine to do so, but better safe than sorry.

Is it OK to put a small label on each cigar (on the cellophane, not on the leaf)? Basically just the date I received it, name, wrapper, etc... Some have it on the band, but some don't. I wouldn't think it would hurt anything, but I don't want to do it and there be something in the adhesive that can cause issues down the line. Yes I realize this is borderline OCD, but what can I say, My dad was a WWII & Korean War Vet (on a sub for nearly 22years in all) and he taught me from a VERY young age to have your stuff in order, no matter what it is, or don't have it at all.

So, yay or nay on labels?

BTW-Going to give one of the new ones a try today (just having a hard time choosing which one first), it's finally warmer out and I can enjoy one without freezing to death.:)

jhedrick83
03-17-2017, 01:04 PM
One last question if you folks don't mind? I believe the answer is that it is fine to do so, but better safe than sorry.

Is it OK to put a small label on each cigar (on the cellophane, not on the leaf)? Basically just the date I received it, name, wrapper, etc... Some have it on the band, but some don't. I wouldn't think it would hurt anything, but I don't want to do it and there be something in the adhesive that can cause issues down the line. Yes I realize this is borderline OCD, but what can I say, My dad was a WWII & Korean War Vet (on a sub for nearly 22years in all) and he taught me from a VERY young age to have your stuff in order, no matter what it is, or don't have it at all.

So, yay or nay on labels?

BTW-Going to give one of the new ones a try today (just having a hard time choosing which one first), it's finally warmer out and I can enjoy one without freezing to death.:)

Ask any questions any time! A sticker on the cello is absolutely fine.

Emperor Zurg
03-17-2017, 01:39 PM
I cast my vote for an 858!

LazyLightning
03-17-2017, 01:41 PM
Thanks Jesse,
I didn't think there would be an issue, but IMHO it's always better to confirm your ideas when you're just starting to get serious about something new.

Headed out to try one of the new ones now, it's either going to be one of the Arturo Fuente Hemingway Short Story (natural) or an 858.

LazyLightning
03-17-2017, 08:10 PM
I was going to have an 858, but got a bit sidetracked and being short on time went with the AF Hemingway Short Story. First impression is good, very good in fact. No harsh spots, excellent draw, nice smooth creamy smoke down to the nub. Last 3/4" went in one of my old MM Morgan cobs to finish it off.
http://i.imgur.com/QJTGFI3.jpg

LazyLightning
03-18-2017, 02:27 PM
I ended up running short on time so I went with a Arturo Fuente Hemingway Short Story (natural). My first impression of them is good. It had an excellent draw, no harsh spots, even burn to the nub (the last 3/4" of which ended up in one of my older MM Morgan cobs to finish off) I posted about it last night with a pic, but for some reason when I post sometimes it says a mod. needs to approve my message (or something similar to that). Not sure if I did something wrong as it never got posted. Here's hoping this post goes through OK.

LazyLightning
03-18-2017, 11:17 PM
Had more time to enjoy a longer smoke earlier this evening, so I gave an 858 Maduro a try. Solid smoke from start to finish, perfect draw, smooth & creamy and again finished off the last 1" or so in a MM Morgan cob.

Hardheaded
03-18-2017, 11:29 PM
It is really hard to go wrong with any of the Arturo Fuente lines. The Curly Heads can have some spotty construction sometimes and can be a little harsh until the 8+ month mark but that is really it. Every other one they produce is spot on and satisfying if you like the flavor profile.

Hardheaded
03-18-2017, 11:33 PM
Ask any questions any time! A sticker on the cello is absolutely fine.

A sharpie marker on the cello is another popular method as well. Once it dries it does not seem to impart any off flavors.

jhedrick83
03-19-2017, 08:46 AM
It is really hard to go wrong with any of the Arturo Fuente lines. Every other one they produce is spot on and satisfying if you like the flavor profile.

Couldn't agree more!

LazyLightning
03-21-2017, 11:04 AM
I'd second that.

601 (blue bands) Robustos or Toros (used to be on Cigar Bid a lot)


Did you mean 601 Blue Label? If so I am putting another order together and was going to throw in a fiver of them to try.

jhedrick83
03-21-2017, 12:41 PM
Did you mean 601 Blue Label? If so I am putting another order together and was going to throw in a fiver of them to try.

Yep! :stogie: