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rodwha
02-13-2017, 06:46 PM
Near the beginning all was swell, though you can see it beginning:
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh640/rodwha/IMG_1912_zpsyvaecbkw.jpg (http://s1255.photobucket.com/user/rodwha/media/IMG_1912_zpsyvaecbkw.jpg.html)
But later it began to crack:
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh640/rodwha/IMG_1913_zps7poqe3hm.jpg (http://s1255.photobucket.com/user/rodwha/media/IMG_1913_zps7poqe3hm.jpg.html)
And then about burst:
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh640/rodwha/IMG_1914_zpstxfcokax.jpg (http://s1255.photobucket.com/user/rodwha/media/IMG_1914_zpstxfcokax.jpg.html)
What happened here?
pdq_wizzard
02-13-2017, 06:59 PM
from what I have found its humidity / wet cigar.
I have been able to power through when they are that early, but had to smoke it very slow to get it past the bee sting.
Cigarer
02-13-2017, 07:52 PM
Had that happen to me and have to agree with the wet cigar post above. Until I stabilized my cigars at a lower humidity I left a cigar out of my humidor so I could smoke it later in the day or the next day, giving it time to adjust itself
Bruck
02-13-2017, 08:11 PM
Could be from smoking in cold wx, if that was the case. Outside cold and dry, inside warm, moist, expanding = split.
allusred
02-13-2017, 10:11 PM
Could be from smoking in cold wx, if that was the case. Outside cold and dry, inside warm, moist, expanding = split.
seems the consensus amongst cigar smoker I've seen or heard of is that the problem most often is due th too much moisture in the cigar.
But Bruce makes, I think, an excellent observation that smoking in the cold..."Outside cold and dry, inside warm, moist, expanding = split." may well be the explanation for the problem rodwha (Bob) had with that cigar. Have had the same problem with splitting when taking a cigar from the warm & moist air in a humidor, then venturing outdoors to smoke in cold and very windy weather.
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TreySC
02-13-2017, 10:22 PM
What kind wrapper is on that? I've found Cameroon wrappers tend to be more prone splitting or tearing, especially in the cold
rodwha
02-13-2017, 11:44 PM
Could be from smoking in cold wx, if that was the case. Outside cold and dry, inside warm, moist, expanding = split.
It was fairly warm today. At the moment (10:30 PM) it's 68* and 84% humidity. I didn't notice high humidity but it was certainly in the low 70's.
So that leads to a moist cigar. I've had it for about a week. Maybe it was kept at a high humidity. The small cigars I've bought and smoked at the same time have been fine though, but then they also weren't 50 ring.
allusred
02-14-2017, 01:25 AM
What kind wrapper is on that? I've found Cameroon wrappers tend to be more prone splitting or tearing, especially in the cold
You're onto something there, the Quality Cameroon tends to be rather thin,delicate, pretty much the "Snowflake" of cigar wrappers.
pdq_wizzard
02-14-2017, 01:45 AM
You're onto something there, the Quality Cameroon tends to be rather thin,delicate, pretty much the "Snowflake" of cigar wrappers.
true but looking at that (explosion) it could have been 100% cotton sock and spit like that :surrender:
Sir Lancerolot
02-14-2017, 08:52 AM
What kind wrapper is on that? I've found Cameroon wrappers tend to be more prone splitting or tearing, especially in the cold
Yep. That was my first thought. I can hardly get through a Cameroon wrapper in Phoenix, any time of year, because of the way they react to the change in humidity from humidor to real world.
Dry boxing might help, but I've never bothered with it.
rodwha
02-14-2017, 01:18 PM
https://www.cigarsinternational.com/p/alec-bradley-american-classic-blend-cigars/1410618/
Jaybird
02-14-2017, 03:29 PM
I have actually found "DRY BOXING" causes that to happen more to me than stopping it. I think the reason is because the wrapper is the first to start to "DRY" out and in doing so the internal burning tobacco that is still a little wetter causes the "BOOM". Want to try and ensure that doesn't happen? Its a LONG solid rest at a stable %RH and all should be well. Delicate cigars shouldn't be pulled from the nest is the weather outside is frightful.. :)
Just my .02
Cheers
Jay
rodwha
02-14-2017, 05:24 PM
I've often smoked cigars within a few weeks of receiving and rarely had this happen. What is the minimum time necessary to acclimate assuming it's at the extreme end (dry or wet)?
allusred
02-14-2017, 05:51 PM
Maybe it's due to reading this thread. First cigar of the day, a smallish Panatela, wrapper 'lifting' right at the foot, smoked ok then a bit of the wrapper lifting again near the end of the smoke, no idea why.
droy1958
02-14-2017, 06:50 PM
I've often smoked cigars within a few weeks of receiving and rarely had this happen. What is the minimum time necessary to acclimate assuming it's at the extreme end (dry or wet)?
I've heard that 1 week per percentage point of RH you want the cigar to move. If your humidor is at 65% and the cigar/s are at 69%, give them four weeks to acclimate. Put your new cigars in an airtight bag or container with a hygrometer and check it in a day to see where they stand. It's easier to just put them in your humidor and give them a few months and smoke some of your others that have been resting a spell......
Kidvegas
02-14-2017, 07:57 PM
I've heard that 1 week per percentage point of RH you want the cigar to move. If your humidor is at 65% and the cigar/s are at 69%, give them four weeks to acclimate. Put your new cigars in an airtight bag or container with a hygrometer and check it in a day to see where they stand. It's easier to just put them in your humidor and give them a few months and smoke some of your others that have been resting a spell......
Agreed!!
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cbr310
02-17-2017, 08:26 PM
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Just happened to me and the cold is exactly why! Keep learning more and more from you guys thanks all
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Zeede
02-21-2017, 03:52 PM
Hmm, would the cold weather really make that much difference?
I mean, if you leave it out for 48 hours then sure, but if you just take it out of the humidor and light it up right away, the FIRE inside the cigar is going to be a much bigger factor than the weather outside.
I've seen many humidors set at a much higher RH than I prefer, but I think it has to do with the fact that the doors to the commercial humidor are being opened all day long.