View Full Version : So how do "YOU" deal with tongue bite
Lostmason
04-26-2016, 06:43 PM
I've been reading some "advice" given on other sites and was wondering just
what y'all do to prevent or diminish tongue bite.There is on thread that defines
tongue bite as a chemicle reaction.The author gives information as to the acid/alkalie
scale and the position where saliva would fall.I have always held and been told that
tongue bite is caused by water vapor/steam and that a slower cadence would solve
any issue.I have noticed there are some blends that feel a bit like good five alarm
chili,but a cool drink will calm those down quite nicely.So for me it's slow sipping and
a cool beverage.And should I actually have a lasting burn a small vacation from my pipe,
usually about an hour.What's your take on this?
Bruck
04-26-2016, 07:26 PM
Bite happens...
I just learn what types of tobacco bite me and take it easy with them. I don't avoid them altogether, as some very good tobaccos tend to give me tongue bite, such as many burleys and some aromatics (which I do generally avoid). Virginias and English blends tend not to bite me.
If you let the tobacco dry out some, that tends to lessen the bite. Also, smoking slower and cooler helps. And finally, if I've got a biter, I'll just smoke one bowl of it at a time, rather than one after another.
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PS, don't do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxPgdpIupz8
sparky426
04-26-2016, 07:52 PM
I tend to slow down or stop all together for the moment.
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Lostmason
04-26-2016, 08:47 PM
Bite happens...
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PS, don't do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxPgdpIupz8
Speed smoked a Marlboro 100 in just under 50 seconds back in 1981,threw up on my squad leader and got stuck with extra duty.
NeverBend
04-26-2016, 08:55 PM
Good question Matt.
I've found it to be cadence or chemical. Orange juice can help if bite is due to alkalinity. Slowing down always helps in either case.
If I smoke a lot of latakia I can get a spot on my tongue that gets sore (all the smoke hits that spot), so I just cut off part of my tongue :)
StogieNinja
04-26-2016, 09:08 PM
I just quit smoking the pipe altogether!
Lostmason
04-26-2016, 09:45 PM
Good question Matt.
I've found it to be cadence or chemical. Orange juice can help if bite is due to alkalinity. Slowing down always helps in either case.
If I smoke a lot of latakia I can get a spot on my tongue that gets sore (all the smoke hits that spot), so I just cut off part of my tongue :)
I would try that , but I all ready talk funny,,,:dunce:
droy1958
04-27-2016, 06:42 PM
Good question Matt.
I've found it to be cadence or chemical. Orange juice can help if bite is due to alkalinity. Slowing down always helps in either case.
If I smoke a lot of latakia I can get a spot on my tongue that gets sore (all the smoke hits that spot), so I just cut off part of my tongue :)
You're a nut!...
I had that problem with FVF. Loved it rott, but had a bowl a month later and thought my tongue was in a beaver trap. Haven't found what to do yet, so I just let it set....
cpmcdill
04-28-2016, 12:29 AM
Most of my tongue bite problems disappeared when I stopped smoking aromatic cavendish blends. I have been smoking VaPers, English, crossovers etc with little bite. Some oddball blends have bit me hard for reasons I cannot fathom: P&C's Union Leader match for example. But I did find that blending in a generous pinch of turkish blending tobacco made that issue go away. It does seem to be a pH issue. So some combination of additive blending and maybe drinking a soda, ice tea or other acidic beverage can spare the tongue.
Worst burner of all was Velvet, which I gradually over time used pinches of in various batches of homemade english/balkan blends was a way to use it up without searing my tongue.
Pipe Smoker
04-28-2016, 12:15 PM
I never suffer tongue bite. I'm a "holder", rather than a "clincher", so the smoke stream is diffused over my whole mouth, rather than being concentrated on one small spot on my tongue. And my pipe bits look like new, even after thousands of pipefuls.
BryGuySC
04-28-2016, 01:04 PM
Bite happens...
I just learn what types of tobacco bite me and take it easy with them. I don't avoid them altogether, as some very good tobaccos tend to give me tongue bite, such as many burleys and some aromatics (which I do generally avoid). Virginias and English blends tend not to bite me.
If you let the tobacco dry out some, that tends to lessen the bite. Also, smoking slower and cooler helps. And finally, if I've got a biter, I'll just smoke one bowl of it at a time, rather than one after another.
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PS, don't do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxPgdpIupz8
Wowsers
BryGuySC
04-28-2016, 01:06 PM
You're a nut!...
I had that problem with FVF. Loved it rott, but had a bowl a month later and thought my tongue was in a beaver trap. Haven't found what to do yet, so I just let it set....
Hate when that happens!
(Insert obligatory "I'll dispose of it for you" comment)
But really, FVF should tame with age. Just be patient.
Lostmason
04-28-2016, 02:02 PM
I guess I'm a bit weird,just finished a bowl of FVF that was dated 2013.It had a nice bit of burn to it , a one alarm chili
kind of thing.I rather enjoyed it.I like a little kick now and then.I've had blends really set things on fire though,mostly
burley blends and those I slow down my cadence and sip water or juice.But the lighter burning blends I just puff on
and enjoy the sensation as well as the flavor.
Haebar
04-28-2016, 03:31 PM
I used to get bite all the time before I learned about letting the tobacco dry out some before smoking it. Used to think that it was just part of pipe smoking. I occasionally get bit every now and then. When I do, I like to drink a cold beer or a soda pop and hold it in my mouth where the burned areas of my mouth are and just let it bubble and fizz intensely.
Cool Breeze
04-29-2016, 12:07 PM
Usually I don't have issues with tongue bite until bowl 5 or 6 in one day.
Since I rarely smoke that much in a day, I don't have to worry about it often.
When I do get it, I just know its time to put the pipe down for the rest of the day. Most times when that happens I'll lay off smoking for a day or two after to let my tongue recover.
As for the FVF biting, I think that the reason people have that issue with Gawith blends is that they're so wet you have to puff hard and often to keep them lit. A little drying time will probably help with those.
It sucks because to me they taste better when they're on the wet side.
NeverBend
04-29-2016, 01:04 PM
...I think that the reason people have that issue with Gawith blends is that they're so wet you have to puff hard and often to keep them lit. A little drying time will probably help with those.
It sucks because to me they taste better when they're on the wet side.
I too prefer my flakes on the moist side. I fold and stuff but I'm careful to fill the bowl loosely at the bottom and I tamp gently to keep the draw easy. On occasion I get tongue irritation from flakes but only if they've dried, probably because I fill the pipe similarly either way.
I'll make a distinction between tongue bite, that I think is a chemical reaction, and tongue irritation that's from heat and continuous smoke arriving on the same spot of the tongue. Either can be caused by excessive smoke (too fast) and for me the key is to forget that I'm smoking at all and get myself into a rhythm. Don't be afraid to let the pipe go out and never fight to keep it lit. When my pipe goes out I 'garden' my ash (removing most), tamp to my preference and relight.
There's always the possibility that certain types of tobacco agree with a person less than others. To anyone who is having these issues, relax, try changing the way that you fill (a bit more resistance or a bit less as needed), and you know how successful you've been as the problem diminishes.