Take a look: are these pipes worth a darn?

[Emperor Zurg]

Always kinda wanted a strait, unfiltered military mount pipe. Can't seem to find one anywhere... well I found a Dunhill but that one was 700 bucks. Wish this one was a smooth finish but other than that it fits the bill. The Dunhill wasn't a smooth finish either...

Butz-Choquin D Argent - PipesandCigars.com (http://www.pipesandcigars.com/pipes/66356/butz-choquin-d-argent-pipes/)

[NeverBend]

Afternoon Bill,

Butz-Choquin, the brand has been around since the mid nineteenth century but they were 'late-comers' to St. Calude (~1950). I only know their reputation through the 1980s and they were a respected French maker.

The bowl is machine made but it's pretty certain that the $700 Dunhill bowl is too. Both shapes have acceptable wall thickness and good proportions. Can't venture a guess on their smoking potential without knowing their briar.

Nice look and the mounting (sterling) appears well rendered. Personally (of course) I'd only have interest in the billiard :).

Hope that helps.

Pete

[Emperor Zurg]

Well yes, I'm looking at the billiard.
I'm open to alternatives though if you know of any. What I'd really like is a smooth finish with thick walls, straight shank, no filter, no p-lip, no 'system' and military mount... and not some huge pipe that won't fit in my hunting coat pocket. Don't care if the spigot is silver, brass or what. Don't really care if the pipe is a 'looker', I just want it to smoke well. I've looked into Stanwells but couldn't find a pipe that didn't have at least one undesirable feature. Acrylic is more desirable than vulcanite just because I don't want to deal with oxidation, mouth feel notwithstanding.

[BryGuySC]

Stanwell Army Mount - PipesandCigars.com (http://www.pipesandcigars.com/pipes/66564/stanwell-army-mount-smooth-pipes/)

[Emperor Zurg]

Stanwell Army Mount - PipesandCigars.com (http://www.pipesandcigars.com/pipes/66564/stanwell-army-mount-smooth-pipes/)

Well that's cool, there's a bunch of them on there, cheaper than the Butz and smooth finish. I like the black one.

[AlanS]

Stanwell Army Mount - PipesandCigars.com (http://www.pipesandcigars.com/pipes/66564/stanwell-army-mount-smooth-pipes/)

Dang you, that Red 29 is a tugging at my pocket!

[Emperor Zurg]

Dang you, that Red 29 is a tugging at my pocket!

You obviously need it. You can afford one little pipe. It's a great deal... just think of how much money you'll save buying that pipe over, say... a Dunhill. 600 bucks at least! How can you afford NOT to buy it?

[AndyCAYP]

Gee, thanks guys. I've been eyeing a Stanwell and when I clicked through to see what pipes you were posting I saw the 15% off code and free shipping over $79.

You guys suck.

[Emperor Zurg]

You guys suck.
No, we pipers 'sip'

[NeverBend]

Hi Bill,

I believe that Stanwell bowls (pipes) are now made in Italy but without seeing them in hand I can't say of that's a positive or negative, possibly made by Paronelli. You might find some pics of Paronelli pipes to compare to the Stanwell (look at the finishing technique).

You've probably already searched eBay for military mount pipes but if not, this is a link to that search (currently):
military mount in Tobacciana | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=barling&_osacat=593&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR5.TRC0.A0.H0.Xmilita ry+mount.TRS0&_nkw=military+mount&_sacat=593)

Pete

[BryGuySC]

Don't forget to also search for "army mount."

[Ropey]

Know that one of those is a FAUX spigot slash army mount. I forget which one. Turned me off from buying it. The metal on the shank doesn't actually go inside and the stem contacts wood.

EDIT:

Here's a quote from a site...

"*The Stanwell take on the Army Mount, like many European makers now really should not be classed as such. The use of the 9mm filter makes it almost impossible to use a true army fitting. A standard 9mm filter tenon is used to hold the mouthpiece to the pipe, with the nickel band just acting as a decorative feature.*"

http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server100/6ihhxuk/products/1096/images/4715/IMG_2458__40654.1406391312.1280.1280.JPG

[AndyCAYP]

No, we pipers 'sip'

Sip, suck, whatever. I bought the stupid pipe thanks to you jerks.

[Emperor Zurg]

Know that one of those is a FAUX spigot slash army mount. I forget which one. Turned me off from buying it. The metal on the shank doesn't actually go inside and the stem contacts wood.


Yeah, I've seen a few of those around. That would tick me right off. I don't want the 'army mount look' I want an actual army mount. I could really care less what it looks like

[AlanS]

Can't stop looking at the Stanwell HCA MIA, I've had it in my cart a couple times. I have eight pipes, but $90+ off, free lighter, free calendar, and free shipping. Damn it it's more than I can bare!

[droy1958]

Can't stop looking at the Stanwell HCA MIA, I've had it in my cart a couple times. I have eight pipes, but $90+ off, free lighter, free calendar, and free shipping. Damn it it's more than I can bare!

*Little devil with wings on your left shoulder*
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[Emperor Zurg]

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[AndyCAYP]

Can't stop looking at the Stanwell HCA MIA, I've had it in my cart a couple times. I have eight pipes, but $90+ off, free lighter, free calendar, and free shipping. Damn it it's more than I can bare!

Buy it and we can be HCA brothers! I just picked up the M1, like I needed another pipe.

[Alligator Gar]

Dang you, that Red 29 is a tugging at my pocket!

Right? That Red 29 jumped out at me, too. Also liked the grain on the Prince, even with the void between grains, assuming this is the site that sells you the pipe that's pictured. Go get you that Red 29, Alan!

[Emperor Zurg]

Sip, suck, whatever. I bought the stupid pipe thanks to you jerks.

Ahh quitcher whinin'. I bought the red 52 :p
Like I needed it :pipe:

I blame this all on Haebar for his review of G&H Louisiana Perique Flake which sent me to the P&C site in the first place...

[AlanS]

Can't stop looking at the Stanwell HCA MIA, I've had it in my cart a couple times. I have eight pipes, but $90+ off, free lighter, free calendar, and free shipping. Damn it it's more than I can bare!

The temptation was more than I could take, SOLD to the Bum in Portland! Thanks for the help fella's.
Third time in the cart was the last, can't wait.

[AndyCAYP]

Ahh quitcher whinin'. I bought the red 52 :p
Like I needed it :pipe:

I blame this all on Haebar for his review of G&H Louisiana Perique Flake which sent me to the P&C site in the first place...

So it seems like Haebar's costing all of us money...

[AlanS]

I actually popped for two, a Stanwell HCA I MIA 9mm, and A Big Ben Bora Black 576.

[Emperor Zurg]

I actually popped for two, a Stanwell HCA I MIA 9mm, and A Big Ben Bora Black 576.

Well you needed a couple more pipes to... round out your rotation... or something.
No worries though, now your collection is looking pretty good! In fact (but for maybe one more pipe) it's complete!

You DO have at least one gourd calabash, don't you? :D

[AlanS]

No ,no, no....

[Haebar]

So it seems like Haebar's costing all of us money...

Hey, I was just trying to get my G&H merit badge. Didn't mean to start a rash of PAD. lol

[Emperor Zurg]

Hey, I was just trying to get my G&H merit badge. Didn't mean to start a rash of PAD. lol

Don't forget TAD, I bought 10 oz of Louisiana Perique Flake among other things.
Figure I'm safe tho, I've never tried a VaPer I didn't like and SG and GH tobaccos are usually excellent - although I don't care much for the Lakeland topped ones.

[Emperor Zurg]

Well the search for an army mount pipe continues...

Got my order in from P&C today just to find out the Stanwell is indeed a fake army mount.
Its just a regular mortise and tenon under an 'army mount looking ferule'
This after sending an email (to no avail) prior to the order to verify that it was indeed a true army mount.
How disappointing. I'm sending this back...

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae231/E-Zurg/Stan3_zpsjvdmb2p2.jpg

[AndyCAYP]

Well the search for an army mount pipe continues...

Got my order in from P&C today just to find out the Stanwell is indeed a fake army mount.
Its just a regular mortise and tenon under an 'army mount looking ferule'
This after sending an email (to no avail) prior to the order to verify that it was indeed a true army mount.
How disappointing. I'm sending this back...

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae231/E-Zurg/Stan3_zpsjvdmb2p2.jpg

Have you looked into the Peterson Irish Made Armys? I had one at one time and it was nice... Have no idea what happened to it, but it had a plain old silver cap on the briar and a tapered stem that fit quite well.

[Emperor Zurg]

Have you looked into the Peterson Irish Made Armys? I had one at one time and it was nice... Have no idea what happened to it, but it had a plain old silver cap on the briar and a tapered stem that fit quite well.

I did but the only ones I found were 'system' pipes and I didn't want one of those. Savinelli makes a few 'spigot' pipes but IDK if they're also fakes. Plus it seems they don't have a straight that I've found.

[AndyCAYP]

I did but the only ones I found were 'system' pipes and I didn't want one of those. Savinelli makes a few 'spigot' pipes but IDK if they're also fakes. Plus it seems they don't have a straight that I've found.

Odd, I don't remember mine being a system. The stem was normal and I'm positive a cleaner passed straight through to the bowl without catching on a second hollow area. Hmmmmpf.

[Emperor Zurg]

Odd, I don't remember mine being a system. The stem was normal and I'm positive a cleaner passed straight through to the bowl without catching on a second hollow area. Hmmmmpf.

What do you want for it? :p
:pipe:

[Emperor Zurg]

Heard back from P&C

...it appears the design was changed when production was moved to Italy. Unfortunately, the rep says all their Army Mount pipes now use the design you received. You will not be able to get a new Stanwell pipe with the traditional army mount stem you seek. If you are stuck on a Stanwell pipe your only hope is to look for an older Estate Stanwell.

D'oh!!!

Well P&C is good about taking returns - they send a prepaid label and all that. I still hate returning stuff tho.
Guess I'll peruse their site for a Pete...

[AndyCAYP]

What do you want for it? :p
:pipe:

Mine is gone. Vanished. Poof. Haven't seen it in a few years.

If'n you don't find what you're looking for at P&C, give me a shot at pricing out a Pete for you. Offhand I don't know how badly they're discounting the things, so I may not be able to compete, but you never know!

[Emperor Zurg]

WANT!!!

http://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/ser-jacopo/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=153875

Too much money tho :( But it's exactly what I'm looking for and more :D :D

[pdq_wizzard]

damn that's pretty, but you are right it's too much, if my wife ever found out I paid that much for a pipe I would be alone the rest of my life.

[NeverBend]

So who's keeping score here?

Guys, report in, who bought which pipe?

[droy1958]

So who's keeping score here?

Guys, report in, who bought which pipe?

I got this one, and this one, and this one and etc.....
My buddy called me yesterday and told me to come pick up a lot of pipes that he had. From what I looked up, I think several of these are called Lumberman's or Canadian as they have the longer oval stems???....

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx114/droy1958/DSC04766_2.jpg (http://s747.photobucket.com/user/droy1958/media/DSC04766_2.jpg.html)

[NeverBend]

I got this one, and this one, and this one and etc.....
My buddy called me yesterday and told me to come pick up a lot of pipes that he had. From what I looked up, I think several of these are called Lumberman's or Canadian as they have the longer oval stems???....

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx114/droy1958/DSC04766_2.jpg (http://s747.photobucket.com/user/droy1958/media/DSC04766_2.jpg.html)

Technically, the canadian is the long, oval shank with a taper stem. The Lumberman is the same with a saddle bit (step-down).

You have a calabash, a couple of cased meerschaums, what appears to be a Savinelli Guibleo d'Oro lumberman (natural carve), a Hilson type leather clad. Couple of old gimmick pipes, etc. Great haul! Is 20 pipes right?

Can you list the nomenclature? I'm especially interested in the pipes at the top and sides (right and left) that have briar inserts on the stems. The pipe on the right (that I refer to) is the large freehand, part bent with the top of the pipe looking like it's mushrooming out. The one on the left is a tall, light angle, rusticated dublin (carved). I might be able to tell you something about many of the pipes but these two piques my curiosity in particular.

[AndyCAYP]

So who's keeping score here?

Guys, report in, who bought which pipe?

http://www.niceashnews.com/blucover/stan.jpg

But that's not all.

I have a confession to make.

Hi. My name is Andy, and I'm a spender. I was in such a good mood when my wife and I found out the sex of our child that I reinvested some savings, scheduled another chunk of my paycheck to go into a "retirement" plan with an eye towards 18 years from now, and then I went and ordered this:

http://images.smokingpipes.com/products/tn/002-023-1308.jpg

I've always wanted a L'Anatra.

[droy1958]

Technically, the canadian is the long, oval shank with a taper stem. The Lumberman is the same with a saddle bit (step-down).

You have a calabash, a couple of cased meerschaums, what appears to be a Savinelli Guibleo d'Oro lumberman (natural carve), a Hilson type leather clad. Couple of old gimmick pipes, etc. Great haul! Is 20 pipes right?

Can you list the nomenclature? I'm especially interested in the pipes at the top and sides (right and left) that have briar inserts on the stems. The pipe on the right (that I refer to) is the large freehand, part bent with the top of the pipe looking like it's mushrooming out. The one on the left is a tall, light angle, rusticated dublin (carved). I might be able to tell you something about many of the pipes but these two piques my curiosity in particular.

I really don't know all that I have here and probably need your help when I get to trying to figure them all out. I think total was 23, but I have a couple stashed that I may keep. If you don't mind, can you PM me your email and I'll pick your well knowledged brain when the time comes as I also picked up a bunch of Pre 64 Winchester Model 70 parts and stocks along with some Model 12 parts that I need to go through yet....

[droy1958]

Technically, the canadian is the long, oval shank with a taper stem. The Lumberman is the same with a saddle bit (step-down).

You have a calabash, a couple of cased meerschaums, what appears to be a Savinelli Guibleo d'Oro lumberman (natural carve), a Hilson type leather clad. Couple of old gimmick pipes, etc. Great haul! Is 20 pipes right?

Can you list the nomenclature? I'm especially interested in the pipes at the top and sides (right and left) that have briar inserts on the stems. The pipe on the right (that I refer to) is the large freehand, part bent with the top of the pipe looking like it's mushrooming out. The one on the left is a tall, light angle, rusticated dublin (carved). I might be able to tell you something about many of the pipes but these two piques my curiosity in particular.

NeverBend
Your inbox is full Pete....

[NeverBend]

http://www.niceashnews.com/blucover/stan.jpg

But that's not all.

I have a confession to make.

Hi. My name is Andy, and I'm a spender. I was in such a good mood when my wife and I found out the sex of our child that I reinvested some savings, scheduled another chunk of my paycheck to go into a "retirement" plan with an eye towards 18 years from now, and then I went and ordered this:

http://images.smokingpipes.com/products/tn/002-023-1308.jpg

I've always wanted a L'Anatra.


All of you guys is irresponsible and need someone to look after your money, so let me have it!!

Andy, can you say B or G? Lovely looking L'Anatra. You and Tab (@Haebar) will have to hang out together. Tab, did the L'Anatra arrive?

[AndyCAYP]

All of you guys is irresponsible and need someone to look after your money, so let me have it!!

Andy, can you say B or G? Lovely looking L'Anatra. You and Tab (@Haebar) will have to hang out together. Tab, did the L'Anatra arrive?

Girl! The only thing we're keeping secret - per my wife - is the name. We're each proposing two names and then giving it some time to see if anything sticks, that's as much info as I'm allowed to divulge!

Back to pipes: Three years ago I spent three months passing on a much more squashed, black rusticated, L'Anatra. It was in my cart a thousand times but I never pulled the trigger. No idea why.

My wife was paying attention. It was her intention to give it to me for Christmas, so she created an account at sp.com and put it in her cart but held off for ONE DAY to figure out what tobacco to include in the purchase... When she went back the next night it was gone. Bless her heart, she contacted over a dozen websites both here and overseas and none had a similar model, nor could (or would) they order one.

Since then I have looked and looked and finally, just last month, I found a very similar model - maybe 85% there, much closer in shape than what I just bought - at a site overseas, but they were asking over $300US plus shipping. Too rich for my blood.

[Haebar]

All of you guys is irresponsible and need someone to look after your money, so let me have it!!

Andy, can you say B or G? Lovely looking L'Anatra. You and Tab (@Haebar) will have to hang out together. Tab, did the L'Anatra arrive?

Yes, it came in. Haven't smoked it yet though.

[AlanS]

My Stanwell HCA showed up on UPS this evening, and I must say she's a beauty. But it seems like they should have some form of quality control, they didnt bore through the stem to the bowl. Absolute zero passage through this thing, any suggestions or recommendations. Drats!
http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w366/awssr58/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-12/20151214_180334_zps3xvvtr7g.jpg (http://s1072.photobucket.com/user/awssr58/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-12/20151214_180334_zps3xvvtr7g.jpg.html)
I was able to clear this, it appeared to be plugged with stain or something!

[AlanS]

Fortunately I ordered an extra, and Big Ben has never let me down.
http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w366/awssr58/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-12/20151214_180924_zps5skxpu0r.jpg (http://s1072.photobucket.com/user/awssr58/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-12/20151214_180924_zps5skxpu0r.jpg.html)