View Full Version : First experience with tubos
Elco69
11-27-2015, 09:15 PM
So back in July, I got 10 AB Prensado Robustos and 10 AB Prensado Churchill Tubos. I took the caps off the tubos and let them sit open in the humi for a few weeks and then put the caps back on, but I left one out of the tube. Couple of weeks ago, I had some of the Robustos and the Churchill, that was taken out and all smoked great and tasted great.
Today I was looking forward to one, after a crap day because I needed to turn my day around. I grabbed one of the tubos pulled out the sticks, cut and light almost immediately tons of harshness, I figured I might have scorched it. An inch in and it gets worse, down to 2/3 and my throat is on fire like really bad acid reflux. Anyone else experience the tubos really slowing down the mellowing/resting of sticks?
TreySC
11-28-2015, 01:05 AM
I leave the cap off while in the humi. Just smoked a CAO Brazilia last night that I've had since March and it was fine
Chad Vegas
11-28-2015, 02:45 AM
Hmmm never had that happen to me before. Have you tried any of the remaining tubos to see if the rest are in the same predicament?
Demuths1770
11-28-2015, 07:32 AM
I always keep the cap off on tubos when i am storing them. some people say they can still "breath" with the caps on while others say tubos can hold humidity for awhile when shut. i personally think tubos where made to hold humidity for a short period of travel and i dont think they breath as well as cello hence why i leave the caps off but that's just my :twocents: my guess would be leaving the caps on extremely slowed down the aging process and depending what RH you store at they may start to be getting to dry
Elco69
11-28-2015, 10:15 AM
Hmmm never had that happen to me before. Have you tried any of the remaining tubos to see if the rest are in the same predicament?
I haven't had any of the other ones yet. I think I may just end up pulling them all out of the tubes. I only had 10, would hate to waste another on another bad experience, if it does turn out to be the tubo not letting it breathe.
I always keep the cap off on tubos when i am storing them. some people say they can still "breath" with the caps on while others say tubos can hold humidity for awhile when shut. i personally think tubos where made to hold humidity for a short period of travel and i dont think they breath as well as cello hence why i leave the caps off but that's just my :twocents: my guess would be leaving the caps on extremely slowed down the aging process and depending what RH you store at they may start to be getting to dry
I store all my NC's at 65%. I am starting to think that I should just use the tubos for single carry when going out and not storage. I agree that the tubos may really slow down the resting of the sticks. Well, I think I have another experiment on my hands. I will take a couple out and check it in a month or 2 and try again and see how they compare.
projectsunfire
11-28-2015, 10:34 AM
I would think it will definitely effect the aging process with them closed. If you are looking at long-term aging (years) then I could see leaving the caps on. But I think you could also possibly have a greater chance of mold with the caps on. I take off the caps on mine. Better safe than sorry
Demuths1770
11-28-2015, 10:45 AM
i would say being stored at 65% they are probably starting to drop in rh being closed
Elco69
11-28-2015, 11:19 AM
i would say being stored at 65% they are probably starting to drop in rh being closed
Even if they dropped a bit, would that cause harshness? Not sure if RH would have anything to do with the harshness, it was more like mongrel on steroids with a bucket of battery acid..lol
Demuths1770
11-28-2015, 11:42 AM
Even if they dropped a bit, would that cause harshness? Not sure if RH would have anything to do with the harshness, it was more like mongrel on steroids with a bucket of battery acid..lol
i personally have never smoke a dry cigar but have read they can be very harsh. depending on how long they have been resting with the caps on they could be well below 60% which i would not smoke a cigar at. did they seem dry at all??
Elco69
11-28-2015, 11:48 AM
i personally have never smoke a dry cigar but have read they can be very harsh. depending on how long they have been resting with the caps on they could be well below 60% which i would not smoke a cigar at. did they seem dry at all??
They did not seem dry or brittle at all. My experience is opposite. I used to store and smoke at 70%, then I tried 65% and a lot of harshness and acrid went away and my CC's are even lower at 62-63%. Even with the caps on, they were kept in my wineador which is 65%.
Demuths1770
11-28-2015, 01:06 PM
yea i know most high RH cigars are harsh but i have read low RH (and not like 60% but like low 50%s or not being in a humidor) are extremely harsh. they say a cigar drops 1% RH a week when resting in a controlled environment. im sure it will drop the same if not more if its not in a controlled environment which i would consider a tubo that's closed
TreySC
11-28-2015, 05:59 PM
They did not seem dry or brittle at all. My experience is opposite. I used to store and smoke at 70%, then I tried 65% and a lot of harshness and acrid went away and my CC's are even lower at 62-63%. Even with the caps on, they were kept in my wineador which is 65%.
It's possible they are just in a "sick" period of of the aging process. Open them up and give it a few months before you try another.