View Full Version : Sour Tupperdor Odor
CoachDread
11-17-2015, 06:57 PM
I've been noticing recently that when I open my tupperdors there is a slightly sour odor present. I have strips of cedar in the bottom and even have a cedar humidor tray in one of them and all are showing the same thing. I'm using 65% Boveda packs and KL and all are coming in at a solid 65% rh at about 70F. Anyone else have this issue? Any ideas about the cause?
AlanS
11-17-2015, 07:02 PM
Are they being opened regularly to allow some air exchange?
CoachDread
11-17-2015, 07:06 PM
Are they being opened regularly to allow some air exchange?
At least every couple of weeks. Holding rock solid at 65% for 10 months...
jhedrick83
11-17-2015, 07:06 PM
Would you say it has an ammonia like odor to it?
CoachDread
11-19-2015, 11:21 AM
Would you say it has an ammonia like odor to it?
Not in the least. Just sour. And across multiple tupperdors with different ages and sources of contents. Just weird all the way around. Not a hint of the cedar sleeves or trays that I have in them...
jhedrick83
11-19-2015, 11:33 AM
Not in the least. Just sour. And across multiple tupperdors with different ages and sources of contents. Just weird all the way around. Not a hint of the cedar sleeves or trays that I have in them...
That's is odd.
penna stogey
11-19-2015, 12:00 PM
Very odd......
sparky426
11-27-2015, 12:49 PM
Is there a common cigar spread out within all containers. Or purchases made from same vendor. Something that would justify all of them smelling. Where are they stored
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I can't imagine it'd hurt to air them out a bit and maybe add in some new cedar. You could also try setting up another small tupperdor with less sticks and seeing if it carries over. Neither should be necessary but it might help. The only causes I can think of is cheap sour processed tobacco finally showing its true colors or cigars going through fermentation. You normally get ammonia but Ive smelled all sorts of weird aromas coming off fresh sticks. Have you added any new stock recently?
CoachDread
11-28-2015, 11:45 AM
Is there a common cigar spread out within all containers. Or purchases made from same vendor. Something that would justify all of them smelling. Where are they stored
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No one vendor that is in all containers. Stored in a dark cabinet. Stable temp.
CoachDread
11-28-2015, 11:47 AM
At this point I'm going to try ordering some new, thicker cedar and see if that helps with the problem. I'm also seasoning a humidor I used in the past and going to try using it again (hold pretty well, just not as no-brainer as the tupperdors).
Elco69
11-28-2015, 11:59 AM
If you want to improve the cedar smell, a light sanding of the cedar will release it as well.
sparky426
11-28-2015, 01:49 PM
Regardless of adding cedar there shouldn't be a sour smell. What is the sourness reminiscent to? Spoiled milk, gym socks, bad veggies ?
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Brimy
11-28-2015, 02:24 PM
Is the KL new, fresh?
As in not sitting around where it may have picked up an odor from someplace else if the container it was in was not securely sealed?
GWBowman
11-28-2015, 02:40 PM
How do the cigars smell out of the box? How do they burn and taste?
CoachDread
12-01-2015, 04:03 PM
Regardless of adding cedar there shouldn't be a sour smell. What is the sourness reminiscent to? Spoiled milk, gym socks, bad veggies ?
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Most similar to spoiled milk, without any hint of underlying sweetness.
CoachDread
12-01-2015, 04:08 PM
Is the KL new, fresh?
As in not sitting around where it may have picked up an odor from someplace else if the container it was in was not securely sealed?
Yes, fresh. Taken from the sealed bag, put into nylon bags, spritzed with distilled water and kept sealed with a 65% Boveda pack until they hold steady at 65% and then put into the tupperdors. Source bag kept in cool dry place and kept sealed, away from anything that might add odor.
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How do the cigars smell out of the box? How do they burn and taste?
That's the thing...I have multiple tupperdors and have had cigars from each of them. One is worse than the others and I believe the cigars from that one have been "flat." The others have no noticeable change to burn or flavor.
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A special thanks to everyone who is still looking at this thread and trying to help. I appreciate your efforts.
sparky426
12-01-2015, 04:43 PM
We're all the containers new? I would ditch the litter and grab a few bovedas, if possible. Maybe even change containers to see if you can isolate it. But with it being all of them I feel like there has to be a common factor with the medium the sticks the environment or the containers.
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CoachDread
12-01-2015, 06:03 PM
We're all the containers new? I would ditch the litter and grab a few bovedas, if possible. Maybe even change containers to see if you can isolate it. But with it being all of them I feel like there has to be a common factor with the medium the sticks the environment or the containers.
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All containers new, from 3 different sources. No common sticks to all containers. Combo of KL and Boveda packs in all containers. I am with you, there MUST be a common factor.
UPDATE: As of this afternoon, only one container, the one with the strongest odor, still has the sour smell. The others have all dissipated. One of them is beginning to pick up the cedar smell and the others just smell like tobacco. So only one still has the problem...now, do I just give it more time or do I pick up 2 more containers and divide the sour one into the three with KL in one, Boveda in another and both in the third?
GWBowman
12-01-2015, 07:32 PM
I believe I'd let them sit. Still curious about a second fermentation or such. Just my :twocents: