View Full Version : Lazy man's alternative to ropes?
Haebar
09-20-2015, 04:03 PM
I like the body and strength of a good rope tobacco, like the Gawith & Hoggarth Black Irish X that OnePyroTec sent me, but I'm not crazy about cutting it up into pieces small enough to smoke in my pipe. It seems I can't get it right; when I cut it by hand, the pieces are too big and are hard to keep lit. When I used the coffee grinder, it divided it a little too finely. Does Gawith & Hoggarth make a ready-rubbed tobacco that has the same or similar strength as that of their ropes?
Shemp Jizzle
09-20-2015, 04:58 PM
Try some of G&Hs Shag cuts.
Kendal Dark, Kendal Kentucky and Dark birds eye ( Favorite) are stout but easy/ no hassle baccies.
but in all honestly rope is always a meaner beast then the Ready rubbed/shag stuff.
Have you tried the Beloved/feared Tambolaka?
Haebar
09-20-2015, 05:11 PM
Try some of G&Hs Shag cuts.
Kendal Dark, Kendal Kentucky and Dark birds eye ( Favorite) are stout but easy/ no hassle baccies.
but in all honestly rope is always a meaner beast then the Ready rubbed/shag stuff.
Have you tried the Beloved/feared Tambolaka?
Thanks, I will try them. No, I haven't tried (or heard of) Tambolaka.
Shemp Jizzle
09-20-2015, 05:16 PM
no, i haven't tried (or heard of) tambolaka.
wwhhaaattttt??!!!
Haebar
09-20-2015, 05:42 PM
wwhhaaattttt??!!!
It's the first I've heard of Tambolaka; thanks for telling me about it.
Aguineapig
09-20-2015, 05:46 PM
Bulk Pipe Tobaccos: Gawith, Hoggarth & Co. Bulk Black Twist Sliced at Smokingpipes.com (http://www.smokingpipes.com/tobacco/by-maker/gawith-hoggarth/bulk/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=3992)
What do you think of this? Does it fit the bill?
Shemp Jizzle
09-20-2015, 05:49 PM
Do you like strong stout Jungle weed?
Do you like to have weird ass dreams?
Then you must try the Tambo. Pretty wild story on how and where its made.
Pretty much all i smoke when i have a bowl. ( Tambo and Various Ropes)
Let me check my supply of it and if i can I will send you some. I think i have like 3 full mason jars of the stuff.
Haebar
09-20-2015, 06:00 PM
Bulk Pipe Tobaccos: Gawith, Hoggarth & Co. Bulk Black Twist Sliced at Smokingpipes.com (http://www.smokingpipes.com/tobacco/by-maker/gawith-hoggarth/bulk/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=3992)
What do you think of this? Does it fit the bill?
That's exactly what I had in mind! Thanks!
c.ortiz108
09-20-2015, 06:41 PM
I'd never heard of Tambolaka, either (no surprise being a noob) - but it sounds exotic and interesting for sure (and scary-strong)! Tambolaka Natural Tobaccos - Tambolaka Pipe Tobacco - Tobacco Reviews (http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend/3857/tambolaka-natural-tobaccos-tambolaka-pipe-tobacco)
Haebar
09-20-2015, 07:11 PM
Do you like strong stout Jungle weed?
Do you like to have weird ass dreams?
Then you must try the Tambo. Pretty wild story on how and where its made.
Pretty much all i smoke when i have a bowl. ( Tambo and Various Ropes)
Let me check my supply of it and if i can I will send you some. I think i have like 3 full mason jars of the stuff.
Lol! Sounds like some stout tobacco. Will give it a try. Thanks!
Bruck
09-20-2015, 07:37 PM
Y'all have piqued my curiosity...
Aguineapig
09-20-2015, 07:53 PM
That's exactly what I had in mind! Thanks!
Cool, hope the consistency ends up being satisfactory. I've never tried the ropes yet, my C&D Burleys seem to fill the role of stout, flavor bombs.
Lostmason
09-20-2015, 07:54 PM
So where can we buy this mythical beast called Tambo?
Shemp Jizzle
09-20-2015, 08:17 PM
So where can we buy this mythical beast called Tambo?
4noggins
When in stock that is
Lostmason
09-20-2015, 08:43 PM
4noggins
When in stock that is
I'll lookit up,,,sounds intriging,,Thanks
cpmcdill
09-20-2015, 09:50 PM
Of interest to lovers of ropes, tambo etc, I recommend the twist tobacco from Turkey Foot Trading. The company specializes in recreating clothing, tools an other things relevant to pioneer/revolutionary war America, and that includes authentic clay pipes and twist tobacco. Their twists are rather strong in nicotine and well-suited to the tiny bowls of clay pipes.
Pipes and Tobacco (http://www.turkeyfootllc.com/PipesandTobacco.html)
Shemp Jizzle
09-26-2015, 04:33 PM
Haebar
Lostmason
@c-ortiz108
Tambo is on the way.
Lostmason
09-26-2015, 04:48 PM
Haebar
Lostmason
@c-ortiz108
Tambo is on the way.
Thx Shemp,,My wife says I have to write down the dreams this causes and share em with y'all,,,I tried to tell we don't like to use that language....:cower:
c.ortiz108
09-26-2015, 08:33 PM
Haebar
Lostmason
@c-ortiz108
Tambo is on the way.
Cool, thanks! Looking forward to trying this stuff.
Haebar
09-26-2015, 10:48 PM
Haebar
Lostmason
@c-ortiz108
Tambo is on the way.
Thanks in advance Shemp!
Haebar
09-28-2015, 03:52 PM
Haebar
Lostmason
@c-ortiz108
Tambo is on the way.
Got it in the mail today, Shemp. Thank you very much! You are a fine fellow!
Lostmason
10-01-2015, 04:59 PM
Shemp Jizzle, The Tambo has arrived ! I will be giving it a try this afternoon or evening and report back tomorrow,that is if I survive the night.:cool:
NeverBend
10-07-2015, 05:55 PM
I like the body and strength of a good rope tobacco, like the Gawith & Hoggarth Black Irish X that @OnePyroTec (http://www.cigarbum.com/forum/members/onepyrotec.html) sent me, but I'm not crazy about cutting it up into pieces small enough to smoke in my pipe. It seems I can't get it right; when I cut it by hand, the pieces are too big and are hard to keep lit. When I used the coffee grinder, it divided it a little too finely. Does Gawith & Hoggarth make a ready-rubbed tobacco that has the same or similar strength as that of their ropes?
Tab, @Aguineapig (http://www.cigarbum.com/forum/members/aguineapig.html) linked one of the Gawith & Hoggarth sliced ropes and there are several more available. I like the Curly Cut deLuxe Sliced quite well. The ropes do age better though.
Of interest to lovers of ropes, tambo etc, I recommend the twist tobacco from Turkey Foot Trading. The company specializes in recreating clothing, tools an other things relevant to pioneer/revolutionary war America, and that includes authentic clay pipes and twist tobacco. Their twists are rather strong in nicotine and well-suited to the tiny bowls of clay pipes.
Pipes and Tobacco (http://www.turkeyfootllc.com/PipesandTobacco.html)
Chris,
Thanks for the link to Turkey Foot Trading. Their prices on the ropes are very reasonable. For those who didn't click the link, the descriptions says that it's a mild twist and they sell for (small) $6.80 for 1.5 oz and (large) $9.30 for 3.0 oz.
edit: I'd suggest surfing this very neat site.
c.ortiz108
10-07-2015, 06:09 PM
Tab, Aguineapig linked one of the Gawith & Hoggarth sliced ropes and there are several more available. I like the Curly Cut deLuxe Sliced quite well. The ropes do age better though.
Chris,
Thanks for the link to Turkey Foot Trading. Their prices on the ropes are very reasonable. For those who didn't click the link, the descriptions says that it's a mild twist and they sell for (small) $6.80 for 1.5 oz and (large) $9.30 for 3.0 oz.
At the risk of thread-jacking - Pete, maybe you can shed some light on something I've been wondering about ropes. They mostly seem to be uber-strong, and I've seen statements that they are the strongest tobaccos around. So it intrigues me that Turkey Foot is selling one they described as being mild. It seems to me that there's nothing inherently strong about ropes, and that it all depends on the tobacco type they use to begin with. And may that they become more dense and concentrated? Do blenders simply tend to use stronger tobaccos when they make ropes? And if so, is that due to tradition? Maybe sailors preferred the strong stuff?
NeverBend
10-07-2015, 06:40 PM
At the risk of thread-jacking - Pete, maybe you can shed some light on something I've been wondering about ropes. They mostly seem to be uber-strong, and I've seen statements that they are the strongest tobaccos around. So it intrigues me that Turkey Foot is selling one they described as being mild. It seems to me that there's nothing inherently strong about ropes, and that it all depends on the tobacco type they use to begin with. And may that they become more dense and concentrated? Do blenders simply tend to use stronger tobaccos when they make ropes? And if so, is that due to tradition? Maybe sailors preferred the strong stuff?
Hi Chico,
You pretty well answered yourself :).
I'm no scholar on the subject but I believe that Native Americans would put several tobacco leaves together (effectively blending) and twist them to smoke or chew. I don't know what method they used to cure the tobacco (I expect they did something). Tobaccos tended to be strong until about the middle of the nineteenth century when bright leaf (VA) evolved.
The Gawiths (Sam and Hoggarth), make heavily compressed roped but it's the same idea as what the Native Americans did. Makes the flavors marry quickly and it's more stable than cut mixtures but the outer leaf is prone to flaking when dry. Gawith was a single company, purportedly beginning in 1792 (probably as a snuff maker), so their tradition was strong tobaccos. The company split but their roots were the same.
Pete
c.ortiz108
10-07-2015, 09:31 PM
Hi Chico,
You pretty well answered yourself :).
I'm no scholar on the subject but I believe that Native Americans would put several tobacco leaves together (effectively blending) and twist them to smoke or chew. I don't know what method they used to cure the tobacco (I expect they did something). Tobaccos tended to be strong until about the middle of the nineteenth century when bright leaf (VA) evolved.
The Gawiths (Sam and Hoggarth), make heavily compressed roped but it's the same idea as what the Native Americans did. Makes the flavors marry quickly and it's more stable than cut mixtures but the outer leaf is prone to flaking when dry. Gawith was a single company, purportedly beginning in 1792 (probably as a snuff maker), so their tradition was strong tobaccos. The company split but their roots were the same.
Pete
Thanks, Pete. I seem to remember at our previous home Tobias Lutz making his own rope? Tobias, did that thread migrate over here? I'd be interested to see it again.
Tobias Lutz
10-08-2015, 07:00 PM
Thanks, Pete. I seem to remember at our previous home Tobias Lutz making his own rope? Tobias, did that thread migrate over here? I'd be interested to see it again.
http://www.cigarbum.com/forum/the-do-it-yourselfer-discussion/sailors-rope-experiment-693.html
:)
c.ortiz108
10-08-2015, 09:04 PM
http://www.cigarbum.com/forum/the-do-it-yourselfer-discussion/sailors-rope-experiment-693.html
:)
That's the one, thankee! An interesting read.
Nachman
10-14-2015, 07:27 PM
I like the Sliced Brown Twist. It is stronger than the Black and doesn't have that burnt tyre flavour.
Haebar
10-14-2015, 07:38 PM
I like the Sliced Brown Twist. It is stronger than the Black and doesn't have that burnt tyre flavour.
I just ordered some of the sliced Brown Twist, the Black twist and some sliced Conniston plug today from Pipes and Cigars. I've only had the black, so am looking forward to trying the other two.