View Full Version : Who likes dublin shaped pipes?
Cool Breeze
07-22-2015, 10:40 PM
I'm ordering a new pipe this week and am torn.
I was on a bulldog kick for a while but I think I've changed my mind for now.
Now I'm looking at a gorgeous (IMO) bent dublin. It has a really large bowl compared to other shapes, which I assume is typical for dublins.
So do you guys like em? I assume they're good smokers or they wouldn't be as popular as they are.
Haebar
07-23-2015, 04:31 AM
I've got a few Dublins and I like them too. Used to have a Ben Wade bent Dublin pipe that I really enjoyed. But my favorite shapes are billiards and bulldogs.
tmoran
07-23-2015, 06:01 AM
I have one small one that I enjoy. Unless I am mistaken, they normally have a conical shaped bowl. In my experience, if you are not accustomed to them, conical shaped bowls have to be packed much lighter and discretion must be used with the tamper compared to straight sided bowls. The bottom will compress to a higher degree, clogging the airway and leaving a wet mess. freestoke's musketball method works perfect in a cone. Just wad a ball of baccy up and shove it in the top, making sure not to cram it all the way down. The taper at the bottom leaves a nice little air pocket and as you (lightly) tamp the baccy will make it's way to the bottom.
Cool Breeze
07-23-2015, 04:16 PM
Well, I didn't get the dublin.
I wasn't very adventurous and just ordered a plain ol' Savinelli billiard. :pipe:
I still am intrigued by dublins and do plan to get one. I like the look and the fact that they're so large bowled.
I had read about the tapered, conical shaped chamber in the dublins. I wondered how that would effect things.
Haebar
07-23-2015, 06:18 PM
Well, I didn't get the dublin.
I wasn't very adventurous and just ordered a plain ol' Savinelli billiard. :pipe:
I still am intrigued by dublins and do plan to get one. I like the look and the fact that they're so large bowled.
I had read about the tapered, conical shaped chamber in the dublins. I wondered how that would effect things.
Congratulations on the new addition to your pipe stable. What model Savinelli did you get?
Cool Breeze
07-23-2015, 07:13 PM
Got this one. It's not a stock photo, it's the exact pipe per smokingpipes.com.
http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac223/prgann/Savinelli1_zpsavrk3v4g.jpg (http://s902.photobucket.com/user/prgann/media/Savinelli1_zpsavrk3v4g.jpg.html)
Bruck
07-23-2015, 07:42 PM
I think the dublin is a cool shape. never smoked with one so no idea how well they work.
OK here's what I don't get, the Irish style pipe:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31UrXEMB-7L._SY355_.jpg
Wouldn't everything just fall out the front? Or is there some technique I'm not picturing?
Emperor Zurg
07-23-2015, 07:53 PM
Wouldn't everything just fall out the front? Or is there some technique I'm not picturing?
Well it is Irish style so maybe it's made to be smoked while lying on one's back in a hammock :D
Haebar
07-23-2015, 09:13 PM
I think the dublin is a cool shape. never smoked with one so no idea how well they work.
OK here's what I don't get, the Irish style pipe:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31UrXEMB-7L._SY355_.jpg
Wouldn't everything just fall out the front? Or is there some technique I'm not picturing?
Never seen one like that. I guess you just have to keep it tamped tightly.
Madbricky
07-24-2015, 01:54 PM
The Mark Twain from Missouri Meerschaum is a very fine Dublin. No taper in the inside, a Frank Method does it justice with flake. great pipe!
Cool Breeze
07-24-2015, 08:55 PM
The Mark Twain from Missouri Meerschaum is a very fine Dublin. No taper in the inside, a Frank Method does it justice with flake. great pipe!
I may pick up a Mark Twain. I do love love love the cobbs.
This is the briar Dublin I had in mind.
http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac223/prgann/Dublin_zpsizer9ysw.jpg (http://s902.photobucket.com/user/prgann/media/Dublin_zpsizer9ysw.jpg.html)
Bruck
07-24-2015, 10:28 PM
Well it is Irish style so maybe it's made to be smoked while lying on one's back in a hammock :D
Or a fen :)
Emperor Zurg
07-25-2015, 06:32 AM
I may pick up a Mark Twain. I do love love love the cobbs.
This is the briar Dublin I had in mind.
Regardless of the description, I'd consider that pipe a freehand, not really a dublin. Hard to know what the tobacco chamber would be shaped like since freehand pipes don't really follow the rules. I'd call the seller and ask a few questions if I was concerned about it.
And Missouri Meers do have tapered chambers. Every one I have, including the Mark Twain has a 14° included angle inside.. It must be how they hold them on the spindle to turn the outside of the bowl.
Basment_Shaman
07-27-2015, 12:38 PM
My favorite shape is the rhodesian, But I'm not prejudice I like dublin shape. I smoked my Peterson Dublin Churchwarden with some Sweet Killarney just last night. I am not a fan of aromatics but Peterson does a good job with them. I am like Hunter Thompson "once you get locked into a serious drug-collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can". I feel the same way about my pipe and tobacco collection. Never put a limit on things that bring you pleasure.
MrMotoyoshi
07-29-2015, 10:32 PM
I am a fan of Dublins. How does NeverBend feel about that?
They're thinner on the bottom and smoke differently at the bottom of the bowl though. If you get a classical Dublin (not a huge honking Danish bowl) be careful to not smoke too hot towards the bottom and mushroom out the bowl.
I have a birth year Caminetto oval shanked Dublin and it's a favorite of mine, despite the detractors :pipe:
NeverBend
07-31-2015, 03:25 PM
I am a fan of Dublins. How does @NeverBend (http://www.cigarbum.com/forum/members/neverbend.html) feel about that?
They're thinner on the bottom and smoke differently at the bottom of the bowl though. If you get a classical Dublin (not a huge honking Danish bowl) be careful to not smoke too hot towards the bottom and mushroom out the bowl.
I have a birth year Caminetto oval shanked Dublin and it's a favorite of mine, despite the detractors :pipe:
Seems that I’ve been called out by our resident Samurai, Sir Motoyoshi!
My opinion on the Dublin shape is based on technical reasons more than aesthetics. I’ve smoked several and sold thousands of Dublins but I don’t smoke the three that I still own.
There are two basic problems with the Dublin shape; reduction of mass, especially at the heel (front of the bowl), and the resulting top heavy loss of balance.
Machine made bowls use smaller and specifically sized blocks of briar that (usually) preclude them from having a large sweep (wide rims). They must conform to the size of the material and the taper angle is gradual and slight compared to what’s possible in their handmade permutations. Machine made bowls are generally smaller and normally have thinner walls so any reduction at the heel is a potential problem.
For Hand Makers, the Dublin is very common because it follows the natural growth pattern of the briar and it’s easy to make them well grained, but aggressive trimming of the heel and too much weight at the rim can cause the problems noted that are more acute for clenchers (like me).
Any Dublin, whether machine or handmade, needs to be examined on its individual characteristics.
Make certain that the heel hasn’t been trimmed excessively. There should be sufficient weight in the lower part of the bowl to offset the weight of the rim. This Ser Jacopo is an example of a technically sound Dublin that has ample heel. The front of the bowl should taper less in comparison to the back of the bowl.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/b3p7SuhT0t9h7NDMqmo0l3fd6CsV6-gPYzMTOmNurcK8XkzRUOFVcuD8xZO0AdvvAQoZLwEivCIWCw3F C9VNH4Lq3Q-6HUOCGLfB3NnElARy9gNceaXsdvvojl2_VS87mq6f9tU
This is a Danish made Barling Dublin (~1980), initially (at least) fraised by machine. The heel has been rounded to the point that there may be problems for the smoker. You need to imagine the shape of the tobacco chamber within the bowl and if the walls will be too thin you should pass on the pipe.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/8sExPt0bE9G645zv8sIus3n2kuUDq1dlnqz1T4OZ-k8E9u1yRXEQl8-G-Z6LIlKvM6tu4oHwKIqP_Bd5ptn5GgHHvtqvnkBdf9tkrbDSpOW hH61uDfakMexxQr_ATYTrfIi4ja4
Alligator Gar
07-31-2015, 10:53 PM
I just picked up this 1970s Kaywoodie Dublin 139R.
http://i.imgur.com/3BUq3oA.png
She's cool to the touch so far smoking some Old Limey Bastard.
http://i.imgur.com/aWbcN3x.png
It's very light and easy to clench. I think I like it.
http://i.imgur.com/4hI2Xhd.png