NeverBend
06-08-2015, 05:05 PM
When evaluating pipes online there can be problems that you need to notice. I’ll use this thread to post pictures and listings with comments about pipes that have distinct ‘problems’.
Lancaster meerschaum lined - imported briar. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LANCASTER-ESTATE-PIPE-MEERCHEEM-LINED-IMPORTED-BRIAR-CIVIC-ON-STEM-/261917343569?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cfb7d7f51)
Civic was a good quality GBD second line pipe made in their conventional shapes and they’re sometimes a good value.. This isn’t a GBD shape and I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a meer lined GBD product. I don’t know the name Lancaster but assume it to be a private label of some kind.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/wAAZ9EM3BJ5aOhWkZnLeoir3FZRZ-xXzJRYP0CWC90-eDYgQ6kbrOFkKx8T1iLQcUznvdQrIFCeLnSMxs41upqmu7nuG-QCMY8gYS_Y2oxkAnc8nHRTOfJQWn9igCaDjPAmbt-M
The stem doesn’t fit flush to the shank, it’s higher. Some original stems are shorter because of buffing but never higher. There are a load of fills but that doesn’t preclude it from being a Civic.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1-sNpr35BvYYjjtI8uR-FaLWiyyi34qdJlw9cLuPEjITZs996BaVbAttG0xGgRfl6lQ6G0 OQj0pSiZ5WZ2LpUuFk1v3Km0sdYSiCJKSP3XVM-2uZpCBuAK5HWxUt9u9t8PKFutk
This is the other side of the pipe and it’s clear that the problem (higher) is on both sides the stem.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/NC6egO2dYJQ39b222eAZ4FyUuqCnJpT8fWuZO46AK7PrT0qTRP 8A-9OQLdICFXbDXZph2bQyT-RILyOLxI5ewKWmJjdYlckEIGmaJZ0qp3CszJkttNRCWTnN22uN c2LW01y7Uzs
From this angle the mismatch is clear and, to me, it looks like this is a Civic stem that was straightened but originally mounted on a bent pipe.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/nB8RovIQe_NICmAbrL76ywEY1Ny4S-XU2o_K_Igv0J-IZrzgA-lWgqFKD3Q2_VmpUJPKvv-oJ5RNQF9ZsrgflqlUqyM1Gwx9fWtOYjTvAVmVOMMWvN63B0UwV Fp3F6iCi36scqs
The bit was completely remade (it’s shaved and poorly done) and the button is raw without any smoothing that should be on even a low priced pipe.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/37CwcJ29czhA-NGO8Ti09KILMtiTwmMKQ8ShHGadqplrX2zPYk7Gz8l3Zt8GKh0 2sXlJruwevBILwMKTzjfnIhzpOjtIQCYsjLYUXp8exlONhf-fRhyK0Xkqf-gQhxu30RDLuXo
The tenon must have been a lucky fit because it appears unaltered. When you see a mismatched stem/bowl and there’s no picture of the tenon, assume that it (tenon) was altered and perhaps damaged to make it fit.
I get a kick out of mish-mash pipes like this although I don’t want to own it. The problems with this pipe are easy to see.
Lancaster meerschaum lined - imported briar. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LANCASTER-ESTATE-PIPE-MEERCHEEM-LINED-IMPORTED-BRIAR-CIVIC-ON-STEM-/261917343569?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cfb7d7f51)
Civic was a good quality GBD second line pipe made in their conventional shapes and they’re sometimes a good value.. This isn’t a GBD shape and I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a meer lined GBD product. I don’t know the name Lancaster but assume it to be a private label of some kind.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/wAAZ9EM3BJ5aOhWkZnLeoir3FZRZ-xXzJRYP0CWC90-eDYgQ6kbrOFkKx8T1iLQcUznvdQrIFCeLnSMxs41upqmu7nuG-QCMY8gYS_Y2oxkAnc8nHRTOfJQWn9igCaDjPAmbt-M
The stem doesn’t fit flush to the shank, it’s higher. Some original stems are shorter because of buffing but never higher. There are a load of fills but that doesn’t preclude it from being a Civic.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1-sNpr35BvYYjjtI8uR-FaLWiyyi34qdJlw9cLuPEjITZs996BaVbAttG0xGgRfl6lQ6G0 OQj0pSiZ5WZ2LpUuFk1v3Km0sdYSiCJKSP3XVM-2uZpCBuAK5HWxUt9u9t8PKFutk
This is the other side of the pipe and it’s clear that the problem (higher) is on both sides the stem.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/NC6egO2dYJQ39b222eAZ4FyUuqCnJpT8fWuZO46AK7PrT0qTRP 8A-9OQLdICFXbDXZph2bQyT-RILyOLxI5ewKWmJjdYlckEIGmaJZ0qp3CszJkttNRCWTnN22uN c2LW01y7Uzs
From this angle the mismatch is clear and, to me, it looks like this is a Civic stem that was straightened but originally mounted on a bent pipe.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/nB8RovIQe_NICmAbrL76ywEY1Ny4S-XU2o_K_Igv0J-IZrzgA-lWgqFKD3Q2_VmpUJPKvv-oJ5RNQF9ZsrgflqlUqyM1Gwx9fWtOYjTvAVmVOMMWvN63B0UwV Fp3F6iCi36scqs
The bit was completely remade (it’s shaved and poorly done) and the button is raw without any smoothing that should be on even a low priced pipe.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/37CwcJ29czhA-NGO8Ti09KILMtiTwmMKQ8ShHGadqplrX2zPYk7Gz8l3Zt8GKh0 2sXlJruwevBILwMKTzjfnIhzpOjtIQCYsjLYUXp8exlONhf-fRhyK0Xkqf-gQhxu30RDLuXo
The tenon must have been a lucky fit because it appears unaltered. When you see a mismatched stem/bowl and there’s no picture of the tenon, assume that it (tenon) was altered and perhaps damaged to make it fit.
I get a kick out of mish-mash pipes like this although I don’t want to own it. The problems with this pipe are easy to see.