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[rodwha]

My tupperdor may hold ~30 sticks or so. If I were to max that out and put the overflow (ones I've had for a while) in something like a parador how long would they hold out for if the starting RH was somewhere between 67-72? I have a Drimistat with Xikar 70% fluid for now (will be buying a Boveda 65% pack with next order).

I also have a 5 stick herfador that I'll need to read up on again as I know the sponge in the center is the humidification device, though I'm not sure if my brewing water is reverse osmosis or distilled as I use whatever I find.

[Zeede]

I don't know what a parador is, but another OXO or Tupperware container should not cost very much. In the event you stop using it to store cigars you can always use it in the kitchen.

This way you don't have to worry if the sticks end up staying in the overflow container longer than originally intended.

[rodwha]

Dadgum auto correct! I meant jarador.

I have a couple of Tupperware containers I kept that held lunch meats that I could also use. I figured those jars with the latching lid and gasket were superior.

[rodwha]

Here's my tupperdor:

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And then I have these:

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But without humidification how long would they last?

[TreySC]

The jars will work, just grab some extra boveda you can stick in there as well.

[rodwha]

I won't have any until I order again. For now I'm dealing with the one Drimistat and Xikar 70% fluid.

Were I overflowed by just a handful I'd set them in the herfador and not worry much over a stick or two as I'm thinking they'd be fine for a week.

I'm mostly curious, but also knowing that I'm close to full with a package on the way.

[Zeede]

You can't just go buy a Boveda?

[rodwha]

I'd assume that the liquor store may have them as they do sell cigars, but I've not looked.

Having read that it takes about a week to adjust the RH of a stick that it may well last long enough as is but wanted confirmation.

If I find myself overstocked here soon Id doubt it would be by many, and that I figure I could deal with within a week. It's more just out of curiousity.

[rodwha]

Oh, I'm in a very small little town. There is no B&M near me.

[TreySC]

They should be fine in something airtight for a week. If you can't get boveda sooner, I'd get a bigger piece of tupperware and keep them all with some kind of humidification device.

You can get boveda for a good price from amazon also.

[Zeede]

I'll be ordering a cube of 65% Bovedas from my local B&M. If you can wait a week or two, I'll just mail you one.

[dbach11]

Bovedas are pretty cheap and they ship fast... also, if you put an item in your cart on their website, start to check out, and then leave the page, in a few hours you should get an email about how sad your abandoned cart must be, and they'll offer you free shipping (you obviously have to have an account for this to work). Makes them cheaper than you'll find at B&Ms and eliminates any need to wait to combine orders.

[rodwha]

Thanks Zeede, but I'll be ordering around that time and don't even know that if have the need anyhow. It's just a want to know in case I'm in a position kind of thing. With sticks possibly taking a week through the mail they seem OK to me ROTT, but then I don't know much yet, which is by I like to ask questions. It's the best way to find out before it's too late.

[Laynard]

A simple ziplock will work for a week if that's all that's needed. Those jars would probably work too. Just make sure if you use something that was previously in use it is clean.

[rodwha]

I'm still curious on an approximate time frame that cigars would last in a sealed container. It's not something to be read into, but just a question. I seek answers however unimportant or irrelevant.

[rodwha]

I will have been hit three times now in succession and the thought occurred to me that I could be overrun by invading forces and wanted to know how long I could keep captives. I'm not in serious danger at the moment, but one never knows.

[Zeede]

I'm still curious on an approximate time frame that cigars would last in a sealed container. It's not something to be read into, but just a question. I seek answers however unimportant or irrelevant.

It depends entirely on how full of cigars the container is. Cigars act almost like humidity sponges themselves, so for example, if you filled a jar with them and sealed it, they'd self-maintain the humidity pretty well themselves.

I'm going to order the 12-pack of Bovedas, so if you do find you need/want one down the road, just let me know :)

[rodwha]

I certainly appreciate the offer!

[penna stogey]

I use a Lock & Lock tupp. for my xtras stixs. Good airtight container and holds more than enough smokes.
Anazon and check there different sizes and shapes. Good luck. PS
Lock & Lock Rectangular Food Container, Short, 16.2-Cup, 131-Fluid Ounces

[greige matter]

I have some extra 69% Boveda you can have. Let me know if you nrrd them.

[garublador]

I'm still curious on an approximate time frame that cigars would last in a sealed container. It's not something to be read into, but just a question. I seek answers however unimportant or irrelevant.Along with the size of container and number of cigars, it would also depend on just how sealed the container is and what the ambient rH is. I doubt anyone can give you anything more than a really rough educated guess.

My guess is that it would take on the order of months to do irreparable damage to the cigars, especially if you have a decently sealed container. They might need a bit of time to bright the rH up in them if they've been like that for a while, but a week or two probably won't make a big difference in their moisture content.

[rodwha]

I wondered if it would potentially be months if 1% RH difference can take a week on average, but it seemed rather extreme and so I was rather skeptical.

[Zeede]

I wondered if it would potentially be months if 1% RH difference can take a week on average, but it seemed rather extreme and so I was rather skeptical.

It's 1% per week on average, but only when making relatively small RH changes (like from 70% to 65%). That is also the rule of thumb for the humidity change to make it all the way to the center of the cigar.

What you really don't want to happen is for there to be a humidity shock to the wrapper, which can cause the wrapper to crack and split.

[Emperor Zurg]

If they are at proper humidity right now and you sealed them up in quart mason jars (churchills don't fit btw) they should last years without any humidification. This assuming the seal is good on the jar and also assuming you don't open the mason jar every now and then for one reason or another. Relative humidity does change with temperature so without anything in there to add/remove moisture I'd try to keep them at the same temperature they were in your humidor.

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[Hardheaded]

They may lose a slight bit of RH bringing the RH of the air in the container into equilibrium with the cigars. Beyond that as long as the container is airtight and not opened at all it should stay that way a very long time.

I think you might be over thinking things a bit. Toss them in an airtight container of your choosing and leave them. Smoke from your normal supply and empty the overflow.when you have the room, or add a boveda pack sometime in the next month or two to the overflow. The biggest thing is to leave the container closed unless you add some sort of humidifcation media.

[rodwha]

Not the first time I've heard that along with being a bit anal! ;)

I like to understand new things. My post counts usually show this.

[Zeede]

Yeah, if you leave them in and airtight jar like what you showed us, they'll be just fine. I'll send along a Boveda pack in a couple of weeks, just for safe keeping.

[Lapithicus]

Bovedas are pretty cheap and they ship fast... also, if you put an item in your cart on their website, start to check out, and then leave the page, in a few hours you should get an email about how sad your abandoned cart must be, and they'll offer you free shipping (you obviously have to have an account for this to work). Makes them cheaper than you'll find at B&Ms and eliminates any need to wait to combine orders.

Thanks for this. I am going to try that on my next order. Shipping on my last cube was $7.36, which I thought was a bit high.

[Billb1960]

Bovedas are pretty cheap and they ship fast... also, if you put an item in your cart on their website, start to check out, and then leave the page, in a few hours you should get an email about how sad your abandoned cart must be, and they'll offer you free shipping (you obviously have to have an account for this to work). Makes them cheaper than you'll find at B&Ms and eliminates any need to wait to combine orders.

Actually my B&M is very reasonable on Bovedas. In fact with shipping they're cheaper.

[DrBob]

The travel humidor can hold cigars for a couple of weeks, but if your really paranoid, just add a drop or two of water to the sponge. The jarador will be just fine for a week or two as long as its air tight.