View Full Version : Who's the real hero?
TreySC
04-28-2015, 08:21 AM
After reading another thread about how great Tatuaje is it got me thinking. Who's the real genius behind them? I know Pete Johnson is the one in charge of the company, but if I'm not mistaken all his stuff is made by Peppin. Then you have Crowned Heads most of their stuff also made by Peppin. Peppin's own stuff is generally loved by everyone. Are guys like Johnson and Huber actually doing the blending and then Peppin's factory just makes them? Or do they give have an idea for what they want out of a cigar and Peppin blends it?
Just something I've been thinking about, and still be fairly new to cigars I don't remember seeing this discussed before.
Tobias Lutz
04-28-2015, 08:56 AM
You can thank this guy...
http://images.politico.com/global/2014/08/15/gore.jpg
(and he invented the internet that brings you CB :) )
TreySC
04-28-2015, 09:05 AM
I shoulda known
Tobias Lutz
04-28-2015, 09:24 AM
Joking aside, from what little I have read (emphasis on "little"), I believe it to be a collaborative effort. Like a restaurateur might take the idea for a dish to his chef, naming the primary ingredients he wants to use, and possibly explaining their characteristics that he enjoys from other dishes he may have eaten, and then his chef uses his experience and knowledge to try and bring it to fruition.
sparky426
04-28-2015, 09:32 AM
So essentially everyone is just a Pepin whore.
BryGuySC
04-28-2015, 09:48 AM
I was wondering the same thing.
My Father and DPG are some of my favorite cigars.
I've only had 2 Tats, a Tattoo and a small brown label. Both good.
I definitely need to try out some more Tats and the other blends they have worked on!
Does anyone have an up-to-date list of the cigars the Pepins blend?
TreySC
04-28-2015, 10:00 AM
Joking aside, from what little I have read (emphasis on "little"), I believe it to be a collaborative effort. Like a restaurateur might take the idea for a dish to his chef, naming the primary ingredients he wants to use, and possibly explaining their characteristics that he enjoys from other dishes he may have eaten, and then his chef uses his experience and knowledge to try and bring it to fruition.
That makes and kind of what I assumed.
TreySC
04-28-2015, 10:09 AM
I was wondering the same thing.
My Father and DPG are some of my favorite cigars.
I've only had 2 Tats, a Tattoo and a small brown label. Both good.
I definitely need to try out some more Tats and the other blends they have worked on!
Does anyone have an up-to-date list of the cigars the Pepins blend?
As far as I know all of Pete Johnson's lines are made there, which are Tatuaje, L'Atelier, and Surrogates. All of the Crowned Heads LE's plus Jericho Hill. I'm not about any others
Demuths1770
04-28-2015, 10:10 AM
also looks like pepin has collaborated with padilla on some sticks as well
TheGrumpyOleTroll
04-28-2015, 10:12 AM
A couple of guys from a local shop went to the tobacco farms and factorys a couple yrs back and one of their story's is that there are blenders that take the ideas from the guys and try to get a tobacco that matches. The guys locally that went found a blend they loved and bought it...
Its been said that Pepin is a master at this..blending, rolling and growing and Pete is a good business man..I think with the right tools and right product it wouldn't be hard to have success.
I guess there were some guys buying up small batches of un-named cigars and marketing them and the reviews came out and they were sub par??
This is just my opinion from my reading and conversations with people who have done it.
Last point it's been said the original Tat Black was PJ's personal blend before it went to market and the rumor was at one time JFRs were Pepin's... Truth in all that who knows.
The Troll
I think Pete personally has a hand in the blending as he's the one that's credited for the La Dueña blend which is a My Fathers cigar. There's an interview on YouTube that also leads me to believe this is the case I'll see if I can find it.
Hardheaded
04-28-2015, 10:18 AM
So essentially everyone is just a Pepin whore.
I fail to see a problem with that.
BryGuySC
04-28-2015, 10:23 AM
Not sure how up-to-date this is, but I'll just put this here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin_Garcia
04EDGE40
04-28-2015, 10:29 AM
So essentially everyone is just a Pepin whore.
Seems to be the truth...
I fail to see a problem with that.
Undoubtedly the truth.
Part of a PJ interview. He talks a lot about blending in the first 10 mins...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcTYAlH6XGU
sparky426
04-28-2015, 11:06 AM
Seems to be the truth...
Undoubtedly the truth.
So, since this is truth, and there is nothing wrong with it,I am now at b&m with Don Pepin. Which would be great except for the two cool guys smoking macanudos and talking about nothing but who can lift more.
Zeede
04-28-2015, 11:58 AM
So, since this is truth, and there is nothing wrong with it,I am now at b&m with Don Pepin. Which would be great except for the two cool guys smoking macanudos and talking about nothing but who can lift more.
All the more reason to smoke at home.
Demuths1770
04-28-2015, 12:05 PM
So, since this is truth, and there is nothing wrong with it,I am now at b&m with Don Pepin. Which would be great except for the two cool guys smoking macanudos and talking about nothing but who can lift more.
rather have that than two guys talking about who bought the more expensive cigar and who has more higher priced sticks at home and whos porsche is worth more money
04EDGE40
04-28-2015, 12:10 PM
So, since this is truth, and there is nothing wrong with it,I am now at b&m with Don Pepin. Which would be great except for the two cool guys smoking macanudos and talking about nothing but who can lift more.
My dad could beat up their dads.
sparky426
04-28-2015, 12:27 PM
My dad could beat up their dads.
Hahahaha
sparky426
04-28-2015, 12:32 PM
rather have that than two guys talking about who bought the more expensive cigar and who has more higher priced sticks at home and whos porsche is worth more money true. Ok enough derailing, the cigar was phenomenal, now to look for deals online. The original robusto is one I'm speaking of
04EDGE40
04-28-2015, 12:42 PM
true. Ok enough derailing, the cigar was phenomenal, now to look for deals online. The original robusto is one I'm speaking of
Blue Label? Mmmmmmmm... one of my favorite lanceros.
Shemp Jizzle
04-28-2015, 03:31 PM
My dad could beat up their dads.
I like the "your moms penis is bigger then my moms penis" Debate better.
droy1958
04-28-2015, 04:14 PM
I like the "your moms penis is bigger then my moms penis" Debate better.
My Legado de Pepin cigar is bigger than your mom's penis....
04EDGE40
04-28-2015, 05:17 PM
I like the "your moms penis is bigger then my moms penis" Debate better.
I don't know man... I don't really want to see my mom's penis :shocked:
BryGuySC
04-28-2015, 06:11 PM
http://media.giphy.com/media/kUmRzl0lGEKgE/giphy.gif
sparky426
04-28-2015, 06:49 PM
Thanks to this thread and my lack of control I just bought a box of Pepin blue robustos. Woo hoo
TreySC
04-28-2015, 07:58 PM
Thanks to this thread and my lack of control I just bought a box of Pepin blue robustos. Woo hoo
You're welcome :stogie:
OldSkoolTarHeel
04-29-2015, 09:53 AM
I had never had a Pepin blue label, until the proprietor of my local B&M suggested one recently. I usually smoke Tat's and Viaje there, so it was a pleasant surprise. I've since bought a fiver or so of the blue labels.