Firecrackers

[Smoke rings]

Remember the original DPG firecrackers(great Lil smoke) well now LaFlor has come out with a firecracker 3.5x50, powerhouse! Not bad price 25 for $99.

[Joe k]

It's an exclusive for two guys I think

[HIM]

It's an exclusive for two guys I think

The 2 Guys Firecracker used to be a DPG Blue but they pulled the bait and switch and now have them made by Victor Sinclair.

[Smoke rings]

The 2 Guys Firecracker used to be a DPG Blue but they pulled the bait and switch and now have them made by Victor Sinclair.
That was last years, the new ones are made by LFD

[barry2guys]

Actually 2 Guys didn't pull a bait an switch.. DPG just no longer makes the original firecracker. The band changed...
This is a new Firecracker, made by La Flor Dominicana limited to 250 boxes.

Press Release:

March 23rd, 2015 (New Hampshire) - The original short format cigar with a fuse, is the Firecracker, measuring at just 3 x 50 and features a closed foot.

In the Fall of 2014 The Cigar Authority and Two Guys Smoke Shop partnered up with a blind taste challenge. With 3 rounds and new releases, La Flor Dominicana walked away as the winner with nearly 500 consumers taking part.

As a result in late 2014 David Garofalo, owner of Two Guys Shop approached Litto Gomez about doing a Limited Edition Firecracker of 250 boxes and the owner of La Flor Dominicana quickly signed onto the project.

“With the unique nature and the size of this cigar it allowed us to utilize some more potent ligero creating a blend that is truly a firecracker of a cigar," said Jonathan Carney, Vice President of Sales who notified Two Guys Smoke Shop that the cigar is shipping from the La Flor Dominicana factory and will arrive at Two Guys Smoke Shop in early April.
According to Litto Gomez, “When Dave asked us to make a cigar named The Firecracker, the mission was very clear. It is everything you'd expect it to be. Double Ligero with a kick.” The La Flor Dominicana Firecracker features a Sumatra wrapper from Ecuador with estate grown Dominican binder and fillers.

“Strap yourself in, this is going to be powerful,” said David Garofalo, owner of Two Guys Smoke Shop who added, “I am excited to work with La Flor Dominicana on this project. It's going to be explosive.”

http://www.2guyscigars.com/brand/LFD-Double-Ligero-Firecracker/

[Demuths1770]

http://halfwheel.com/two-guys-smoke-shop-adds-la-flor-dominicana-firecracker

[johnnyflake]

There just too dam small for me to even consider. 3 1/2" x 50. I have no interest!

The ring gauge is fine but a 3 1/2" cigar, that's crazy. If it were 4 1/2' or 5" I would be interested and wanting to try one.

[StogieNinja]

Actually 2 Guys didn't pull a bait an switch...

...this year.

[barry2guys]

...this year.

I don't really want to get into an argument, but the band was changed when the Firecracker was re-release, the DPG was removed. I understand it could of been relayed better.

[StogieNinja]

I don't really want to get into an argument, but the band was changed when the Firecracker was re-release, the DPG was removed. I understand it could of been relayed better.

I don't want to get into an argument either. Let's just say I agree with you that it could have been relayed better.

[Marc L]

I can hardy wait to get some LFD Firecrackers. On Saturday I thought they where coming in next week and, my need to have the Exceptional Premium Wheel (http://www.2guyscigars.com/Cigars-Cigars/735) 
in my cart was to great at that time. I didn't want to wait so, I will leave the Firecrackers in the cart for next weeks delivery. I'm glad now knowing I'll have the wheel tomorrow.

I would like to know about the alleged bait and switch.

As I recall from a Cigar Authority ustream broadcast lost in history, when the Don Pepin Garcia came out with the blue label blend, Dave had conceptualized the Firecracker vitola. A 3.25 X 50 parejo with a tailed cap that would run the full length of the cigar.
Dave desired the Blue Label blend for this cigar for 2 guys exclusively. Pepin had an initial production for Dave. Then, Pepin added it to his Blue Label line up never making more for 2 guys.

So it seems Pepin took Dave's idea and ran with it leaving 2 guys in the dust.

[Marc L]

"Monday, March 12, 2012 @ www.cigar-coop.com/-dpg-blue (http://www.cigar-coop.com/2012/03/cigar-review-don-pepin-garcia-blue.html)



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-V3-TAHuAkz8/T11EOWhyw0I/AAAAAAAACF0/jVVAnNOwORc/s320/Don+Pepin+Garcia+Blue+Label+Firecracker.JPG (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-V3-TAHuAkz8/T11EOWhyw0I/AAAAAAAACF0/jVVAnNOwORc/s1600/Don+Pepin+Garcia+Blue+Label+Firecracker.JPG)


Don Pepin Garcia Blue Label Firecracker


In the past year, the Garcia family has been promoting many retailer exclusive cigar blends and vitolas under the My Father Cigars brand. Retail exclusive cigars are nothing new to the Garcias and in particular Don Pepin Garcia. A few years ago, under the Don Pepin Garcia brand, a retail exclusive cigar was provided to Two Guys Cigar Shop in New Hampshire. This cigar was a special vitola of the popular Don Pepin Garcia Blue Label and is called the Firecracker. From it's appearance, it looks more like a M80 - complete with a fuse. In addition, when examining this cigar, it appears to be more like a 1/2 size cigar - which it basicaly is. This little cigar delivers a powerful bunch and provides some very nice flavors making for a nice smoking experience in a short amount of time.

The Don Pepin Garcia Blue Label series comes from Garcia's original company, El Rey de los Habanos. It was originally made at the factory in Miami bearing that company's name and then production was shifted to Tabaclaera Cubanas S.A. in Esteli, Nicaragua. The Blue Label series has produced one other retail exclusive vitola, a special lancero (for Puff n Stuff in Georgia). The Firecracker is a unique vitola in terms of the porfolio of cigars offered by the Garcia family (El Rey de los Habanos and My Father Cigars). Measuring three inches in length, it is definitely one of the shortest cigars I have seeen with a 50 ring gauge vitola.

Let's take a closer look at this cigar and see how it breaks down. I will disclaim that this assessment is based on a single smoke of the Don Pepin Blue Label Firecracker."

[Marc L]

Is this how roomers get started?

"Will do.......I found out from Kevin the Firecrackers are Victor Sinclair." (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?p=1852587#post1852587)

16091610

[barry2guys]

So the story goes like this...

The Firecracker was the first cigar with a Fuse and there was plans to come out with various forms of the cigar. Pepin then made La Bomba which had a fuse and it turned into a little how do you do. So when the original firecracker sold out, it was time to make them again. Dave went to another factory, and changed the band up. All references to Pepin were removed. Now you can make an argument people didn't read the band and that the description no longer mentioned Pepin. Or you can argue that it wasn't put in bold "THESE ARE NO LONGER MADE BY PEPIN".

Long story short, this years limited edition Firecracker was made by LFD. Next year we might make them at another factory.

So thats the story behind the the Firecracker.

It was truly never the intention to mislead people and for those who felt 2 Guys did, I personally extend an apology.

[Marc L]

Thanks Barry. were you able to get the video connection with Rudy strait?
If not, I am wiling to work it out with you if you like.

[barry2guys]

He's going to be at a hotel on Saturday.. so we will test it then.

[Marc L]

Sounds good. I didn't know what to think yesterday when you invited me in.

[StogieNinja]

Now you can make an argument people didn't read the band and that the description no longer mentioned Pepin. Or you can argue that it wasn't put in bold "THESE ARE NO LONGER MADE BY PEPIN".

Or you could argue that using the phrase "Often imitated, never duplicated" as a headline was incredibly misleading, especially since the new Sinclair version actually was an imitation.

Or you could argue that using the phrase "The factory said I was "loco"" and never mentioning that any other factory was involved at any point implied that "the factory" hadn't changed.

Or you could argue that 2 Guys could have tried to change the look somehow (for example, changing any of the three colors on the band), instead of trying to mimic the DPG version as closely as possible.

Or you could argue that instead of just saying "This year we made a very limited amounts of a Maduro version" in the copy (making it sound like that was the only change) 2 Guys could have said "We moved factories this year, and are now making both a new Firecracker and a new maduro Firecracker."

You could argue any of those things, instead of just clinging to "we didn't use Pepin's name in the copy."


Now, all that being said...


It was truly never the intention to mislead people and for those who felt 2 Guys did, I personally extend an apology.

Barry, I have a lot of opinions about some of the things that have come from 2Guys/CigarAuthority, but I'm also of the opinion that a genuine apology goes a long way. This is the first of any kind of apology I've seen regarding the whole debacle, and I appreciate it.

[barry2guys]

Barry, I have a lot of opinions about some of the things that have come from 2Guys/CigarAuthority, but I'm also of the opinion that a genuine apology goes a long way. This is the first of any kind of apology I've seen regarding the whole debacle, and I appreciate it.

I'll be the first person to admit some of the stuff to come out of Mr. Jonathans mouth is asinine, but I will also tell you Dave is one of the most genuine people I ever met and easily hands down the greatest boss I ever had the privilege of working for. Things are changing here for the better but please don't lump the actions of one and the words to come out of his mouth as the gospel.

I've been around forums since 2007 or so, and all I ask is you judge me for who I am and then if I earn your trust, that maybe you give to thecigarauthority.com and/or 2 guys. With me, WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get).

See you around the forums, and maybe one day lighting one up with you.

[StogieNinja]

Fair enough, Barry. I do appreciate your candidness, and I'll look forward to seeing you around.

[Marc L]

What a cop out. so no back up to the bashing. that's not right.
I thought Derek might have brought something more then hearsay to it.
What say you Cole. Any thing useful? Who is Kevin?

[johnnyflake]

Man am I glad I don't have to worry about all the conjecture!

[HabanoMan]

What a cop out. so no back up to the bashing. that's not right.

Looks to me like they have put their differences behind them be it a lack of communication or whatever. No need to stir the pot since nothing good will come from it. Just my .02

[Marc L]

Looks to me like they have put their differences behind them be it a lack of communication or whatever. No need to stir the pot since nothing good will come from it. Just my .02

That's great! It just seems simple to me to say where you get some info from. I mean say, it's not reliable or I'm a hater and like to spread roomers or something. Or I can't say. it was told in confidentiality or something.

[jhedrick83]

I've been around forums since 2007 or so, and all I ask is you judge me for who I am and then if I earn your trust, that maybe you give to thecigarauthority.com and/or 2 guys. With me, WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get).

See you around the forums, and maybe one day lighting one up with you.

Glad to have you here Barry.

[StogieNinja]

What a cop out. so no back up to the bashing. that's not right.
I thought Derek might have brought something more then hearsay to it.
What say you Cole. Any thing useful? Who is Kevin?

Marc, I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to, but nothing I said was hearsay.

See my previous post for all the issues I had with the way 2 Guys released the non-DPG Firecracker. Everything I referenced in that post was directly referencing the original copy released by 2 Guys.

I still feel it was intentionally misleading, and nothing in my last post says otherwise, so I don't see how there's been a cop out anywhere.

That being said, I did sincerely appreciate Barry's apology, and am willing to move forward from there.

[Demuths1770]

Looks to me like they have put their differences behind them be it a lack of communication or whatever. No need to stir the pot since nothing good will come from it. Just my .02

i have to agree!! why are we trying to stir the pot more? he was simply stating he didnt like the way the change was handled, there was no bashing. he was stating a good fact and it has all been answered and good now

[Marc L]

Marc, I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to,..

Okay. I was going to repeat myself from above but, I'm not going to. Well, .. I'll say, smoking a cigar can work wonders. .. so lets light up. I'm good. I bet Litto did a great job with the new ones.

[barry2guys]

That being said, I did sincerely appreciate Barry's apology, and am willing to move forward from there.

Works for me, I was surprised to see this thread was still alive.