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cbr310
02-10-2015, 08:18 PM
So I dont understand why you cant just tightly close a tin lid. isnt it the same as tightl closing a mason jar lid? still air in each of them. My tin has dried out, you guys just tossing the stuff in a jar and closing it by hand calling it good? or actually boiling it like canning. never did that before. Is a small ziplock bag good enough? I got a sampler off or tmoran and still have a few ziplocks left to get through, is that good enough or buy some small jars and toss them in? Guessing ill have to wet a paper towel and toss it in a jar with my half tin of midnight ride to rehydrate it.
AlanS
02-10-2015, 08:28 PM
I couldn't find Mason jars so I got Balls! If its been opened and not used soon I put it in jars.
tmoran
02-10-2015, 08:52 PM
Mason jars seal much better than tins. This time of year, if I'm not going to finish it within a week, I will always jar it up. When it is more humid, it will last in the tin a couple weeks. Also, not all tins are created equal. The rectangular ones don't seem to seal very well. The circular pop tins sometimes seal ok. The best tins for resealing are the circular screw on type, or the Reiner paint cans also seem to seal well.
OnePyroTec
02-10-2015, 11:00 PM
So I dont understand why you cant just tightly close a tin lid. isnt it the same as tightl closing a mason jar lid? still air in each of them. My tin has dried out, you guys just tossing the stuff in a jar and closing it by hand calling it good? or actually boiling it like canning. never did that before. Is a small ziplock bag good enough? I got a sampler off or tmoran and still have a few ziplocks left to get through, is that good enough or buy some small jars and toss them in? Guessing ill have to wet a paper towel and toss it in a jar with my half tin of midnight ride to rehydrate it.
New jars are clean enough when new for old rotting leaves so there is no need for boiling the jars.
You can get some humidifying pucks cheap for pipe tobacco if you want to use bags or tins and not bother with jarring your tobacco.
Branzig
02-11-2015, 12:04 AM
If you let your jars sit long enough, the "pop top" will actually collapse in, just as if you had boiled them. It is the moisture sucking the vacuum seal tight.
So in essence, jarring your tobacco is 10000000 times more safe than leaving it in a tin. Also, I have never open a mason jar that I put tobacco in to find it bone dry and ruined...I have opened a tin that I had forgotten that I opened and found it more dry than desert sand...jars for the win.
Haebar
02-19-2015, 07:43 PM
These little squat half-pint Mason jars are good for the remainder of a tin.
http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah50/haebar/half-pint-wide-mouth-mason-jars_zps06bc764f.jpg
LandonColby
02-19-2015, 10:16 PM
Don't use a zip lock for storage, and unless the tin is a circular screw top I don't trust it to keep anything fresh and moist for more that a month. The oilyness of the leaf matters too, and I've had a tin of Odyssey open for a few months and it is still prime for smoking, even needs drying still....but that's another topic.
If I don't plan on finishing something within the month it goes in a jar. A natural blend (not soaked in PG) will seal itself in the jar due to the natural fermentation of the leaf. I have not boiled my tobacco jars as if they were jelly (and will never do such a thing, it's absurd and unnecessary).
Just stick whatever tobacco you have in jars and have peace of mind knowing nothing bad will happen to them.
Cool Breeze
02-20-2015, 01:04 AM
I couldn't find Mason jars so I got Balls! If its been opened and not used soon I put it in jars.
I would imagine any decent brand would do fine. I got the Wal Mart brand the other day. I believe a dozen quart sized jars were only $7-$8. They're not the wide mouth ones, but they're fine for long term storage.
These little squat half-pint Mason jars are good for the remainder of a tin.
http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah50/haebar/half-pint-wide-mouth-mason-jars_zps06bc764f.jpg
Those are a perfect size for a tin or if you're just buying a couple ounces of bulk stuff. Do they stack well?
I need to pick up a dozen of those little babys.
mooster
02-20-2015, 02:09 AM
Also, I have never open a mason jar that I put tobacco in to find it bone dry and ruined...
I have. Make sure there's no tobacco on the rim before tightening down! :D
mooster
02-20-2015, 02:10 AM
I couldn't find Mason jars so I got Balls!
Show off!
Haebar
02-20-2015, 06:25 AM
I would imagine any decent brand would do fine. I got the Wal Mart brand the other day. I believe a dozen quart sized jars were only $7-$8. They're not the wide mouth ones, but they're fine for long term storage.
Those are a perfect size for a tin or if you're just buying a couple ounces of bulk stuff. Do they stack well?
I need to pick up a dozen of those little babys.
They stack pretty well. They come in packs of 4 and are kind of hard to find. I found some at Cooking.com:
http://www.cooking.com/set-of-4-collection-elite-wide-mouth-half-pint-8-oz-wide-mouth-jars-by-ball_229661_11/
Horseshoe
02-20-2015, 07:11 AM
I got these, and they seem to hold about 2oz. I don't pack it in the jar super tight though.
Ball Canning Regular Mouth Half Pint Canning Jar 8 oz. 12-Count https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HNPNNLS/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_crY5ub0DRJBJ3
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HNPNNLS/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_crY5ub0DRJBJ3
Tobias Lutz
02-20-2015, 07:15 AM
I got these, and they seem to hold about 2oz. I don't pack it in the jar super tight though.
Ball Canning Regular Mouth Half Pint Canning Jar 8 oz. 12-Count https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HNPNNLS/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_crY5ub0DRJBJ3
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HNPNNLS/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_crY5ub0DRJBJ3
That's on par with my experience. I get 8oz in a quart jar. The only blends I have to really pack are ribbon cut Virginias. Cavendish and flake easily fits.
Branzig
02-20-2015, 10:32 AM
I have. Make sure there's no tobacco on the rim before tightening down! :D
Well yes, if there is tobacco in the seal you are correct it will not close air tight :p
BryGuySC
02-20-2015, 11:21 AM
I got these, and they seem to hold about 2oz. I don't pack it in the jar super tight though.
Ball Canning Regular Mouth Half Pint Canning Jar 8 oz. 12-Count https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HNPNNLS/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_crY5ub0DRJBJ3
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HNPNNLS/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_crY5ub0DRJBJ3
A 100g tin of flake will fit easily into these. I try to stick to this size, so I can open one jar and smoke it while letting more of the same tobacco continue to age uninterrupted.
Demuths1770
02-20-2015, 11:35 AM
Those are a perfect size for a tin or if you're just buying a couple ounces of bulk stuff. Do they stack well?
I need to pick up a dozen of those little babys.
in my opinon yeah they "stack" but they dont sit into each other so its not a nice stack like regual canning jars. i used to use these when i started and stored my tobacco stuff in a small cabinet. one day i opened the cabinet and two jars fell onto the floor.
LandonColby
02-20-2015, 11:36 AM
A 100g tin of flake will fit easily into these. I try to stick to this size, so I can open one jar and smoke it while letting more of the same tobacco continue to age uninterrupted.
Another good point, if you keep opening your jar it will eventually stop sealing itself. The leaf will stay fresh (moisture content) but if you're going for looong term storage you might find you blend tastes different in years to come.
Demuths1770
02-20-2015, 11:36 AM
New jars are clean enough when new for old rotting leaves so there is no need for boiling the jars.
You can get some humidifying pucks cheap for pipe tobacco if you want to use bags or tins and not bother with jarring your tobacco.
he was refering to boiling it after puting the tobacco into it like you boil jared food to get the seal.
Demuths1770
02-20-2015, 11:38 AM
rather than tossing a piece of wet paper towel in go w one of these
http://www.pipesandcigars.com/humidification/78837/pouch-moistener/#p-118211