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AuTechCoM
03-09-2015, 02:36 PM
Here is something a little different. Not asking for the worst or best cigar ever. But what was your biggest Letdown?

I know for me it was the Oliva Serie 'V' Melanio. I had heard so many wonderful things about them, so I went out and bought a box blindly. Let them rest in my humi for a few months and then on the special day that I decided to finally give it a try. I poured myself a few fingers of a nice 15 year old scotch and headed to the front porch to indulge in what I was sure to be one awesome smoke. Everything seemed right and perfect until I started to smoke it. Now it wasn’t bad but I had built it up in my head to be something magical, and felt a little cheated.

Have you guys ever had this happen?

Billb1960
03-09-2015, 02:41 PM
Here is something a little different. Not asking for the worst or best cigar ever. But what was your biggest Letdown?

I know for me it was the Oliva Serie 'V' Melanio. I had heard so many wonderful things about them, so I went out and bought a box blindly. Let them rest in my humi for a few months and then on the special day that I decided to finally give it a try. I poured myself a few fingers of a nice 15 year old scotch and headed to the front porch to indulge in what I was sure to be one awesome smoke. Everything seemed right and perfect until I started to smoke it. Now it wasn’t bad but I had built it up in my head to be something magical, and felt a little cheated.

Have you guys ever had this happen?

That's how the LP 9 was for me. Now that I know what to expect it's a good cigar but for me not worth the price and certainly not worth chasing it around. The only upside is they sell very quickly on the "secondary" market.

gordo1473
03-09-2015, 02:45 PM
Every padron I smoke.

Chadderkdawg
03-09-2015, 03:10 PM
Every padron I smoke.

This

Cardinal
03-09-2015, 03:22 PM
Funny, I was thinking Padron in general too, with the exception of one of the 1964 with the little hammer, and the 85 Years secondary band..whichever that one is. I liked that one...a lot.

Bummer on the Melanio, Jonathan, I love those.

gordo1473
03-09-2015, 03:26 PM
I smoked the yellow hammer. Spent $27 on it. No unicorn farts, no Angels singing nothing. The melanio maduro are a lot better

jhedrick83
03-09-2015, 03:26 PM
Mine is a Herrera Esteli. Maybe it was a dud, maybe the B&M I got it from had it too wet. It was ok, the flavors were a bit muted. It wasn't a bad cigar, it just wasn't epic like so many people had described it to me.

herman
03-09-2015, 03:32 PM
I can see how that could happen with the Melanio. I really like Oliva, not because I think they're the best cigars out there, but because they are good cigars with realistic prices. For me it was the LP Undercrown. They're not bad, but being in the LP line, I was expecting another 9 or T52.

El Whedo
03-09-2015, 03:33 PM
The Big Let-Down for me was Stonehaven pipe tobacco.

It was expensive and VERY hard to find, but everyone was singing it's praises for years, so I had to try it. What a let-down. It had a distinct metallic tang to it and some strange chemical taste in the background. I'd rather smoke Prince Albert.

Sigaar
03-09-2015, 03:37 PM
Flor de las Antillas. Just didn't float my boat, and I've tried two of them.

gordo1473
03-09-2015, 03:39 PM
Mine is a Herrera Esteli. Maybe it was a dud, maybe the B&M I got it from had it too wet. It was ok, the flavors were a bit muted. It wasn't a bad cigar, it just wasn't epic like so many people had described it to me.

I'd say let one rest for a bit. These have always hit the mark for me. I tried one of the LE lanceros and didn't like it at all. Got another one and let it rest. What a difference it was. If they are wet it makes a huge difference in flavor profile everything. But with that being said it may not be in your wheel house

jhedrick83
03-09-2015, 03:41 PM
I'd say let one rest for a bit. These have always hit the mark for me. I tried one of the LE lanceros and didn't like it at all. Got another one and let it rest. What a difference it was. If they are wet it makes a huge difference in flavor profile everything. But with that being said it may not be in your wheel house

I'll pick a couple up next week to let them chill and try again. I smoked it as soon as I got home from the B&M because I was excited to give it a go.

jhedrick83
03-09-2015, 03:42 PM
Flor de las Antillas. Just didn't float my boat, and I've tried two of them.

I found these underwhelming as well. I had two well rested ones. They were good, just not great to me.

AuTechCoM
03-09-2015, 03:43 PM
Wow, a lot of guys aren't impressed with Padron. Maybe I like them so much because I took baby steps starting with the X000 series and already had an idea of what to expect. The Melanio is still a good stick and at the price I got the box for I couldn't even begin to complain about it. I still keep them around and smoke one occasionally but I tend to give them away more than I smoke them.

gordo1473
03-09-2015, 03:44 PM
I'll pick a couple up next week to let them chill and try again. I smoked it as soon as I got home from the B&M because I was excited to give it a go.

That's same thing I did.

Rocket Scientologist
03-09-2015, 04:03 PM
I know for me it was the Oliva Serie 'V' Melanio.

I actually liked the regular Serie V more than the Melanio.

Browns7213
03-09-2015, 04:17 PM
That's how the LP 9 was for me. Now that I know what to expect it's a good cigar but for me not worth the price and certainly not worth chasing it around. The only upside is they sell very quickly on the "secondary" market.

This.^^^^^^

UncleFesterESQ
03-09-2015, 04:20 PM
Wow, a lot of guys aren't impressed with Padron. Maybe I like them so much because I took baby steps starting with the X000 series and already had an idea of what to expect. The Melanio is still a good stick and at the price I got the box for I couldn't even begin to complain about it. I still keep them around and smoke one occasionally but I tend to give them away more than I smoke them.

About 5 years ago I had a Cohiba Behike, Siglio IV, and a Padron 1926. (All in the same week)

My favorite of the 3... The Padron 1926.:confusion:

If Bum decides to ban me for this confession, I'll completely understand.

izkeh
03-09-2015, 04:30 PM
Opus X. It was good but it wasn't $27 good. It was $10-12 good.

Billb1960
03-09-2015, 04:37 PM
About 5 years ago I had a Cohiba Behike, Siglio IV, and a Padron 1926. (All in the same week)

My favorite of the 3... The Padron 1926.:confusion:

If Bum decides to ban me for this confession, I'll completely understand.

http://fogsmoviereviews.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/blasphemer.jpg

mi000ke
03-09-2015, 04:43 PM
Every padron I smoke.

+1

and the Alec Bradley Prensado. First third was nice. Rest was the worst cigar I ever smoked. Had to put it out - something I almost never do.

frodo
03-09-2015, 04:51 PM
Carlito God of Fire. I'd give it 7.5/10 for a $20 cigar...

AuTechCoM
03-09-2015, 04:53 PM
Opus X. It was good but it wasn't $27 good. It was $10-12 good.

Haha yeah i can agree with that. I do love Opus X but locally they are crazy with their prices. I have on B&M that sells Power Rangers for $36 and another that sells D' Chateau for $57

AuTechCoM
03-09-2015, 04:57 PM
Carlito God of Fire. I'd give it 7.5/10 for a $20 cigar...

What year? I had an 06 that i still dream about.

frodo
03-09-2015, 11:30 PM
What year? I had an 06 that i still dream about.

Forgot, but I had a couple with the same reaction. Won't be getting any more...

frodo
03-09-2015, 11:34 PM
Opus X. It was good but it wasn't $27 good. It was $10-12 good.

Here's a few things...

1) Not everyone will like Opus X.
2) They need significant nap time (like 3-4yrs) to get the best from them or so I've heard.
3) I've found significant flavour differences in the RG - a Power Ranger tastes different from a Petit Lancero and the DC tastes different from either. Same thing with the Anejos.

Branzig
03-09-2015, 11:35 PM
Every padron I smoke.


I feel the exact same way....except you misspelled it sir.

It is spelt "Perdomo" not "Padron" :p

Honestly, I have yet to smoke a Perdomo that I like. :crushed:

Cool Breeze
03-09-2015, 11:43 PM
Every Alec Bradley I've smoked, except 1.

Brazil Maxx, Tempus maduro and Black Market Punk all sucked ass. I don't think the BM Punk would have been bad but the draw as terrible. Like a super thick milkshake.

Now the Nica Puro I like quiet a bit.

AuTechCoM
03-09-2015, 11:44 PM
I feel the exact same way....except you misspelled it sir.

It is spelt "Perdomo" not "Padron" :p

Honestly, I have yet to smoke a Perdomo that I like. :crushed:

Haha I am in the same boat. The only one that has been enjoyable was a lot 23 Churchill

Brent Strande
03-10-2015, 12:15 AM
I had a Cohiba Red Dot from a CI Tremendous Twelve (?) sampler that sat at 62% for 2+ months. The first 1/3 was nothing stand out; then it turned sour/acrid and I couldn't finish it.
Still disappointed on that; will try another but major letdown :(

droy1958
03-10-2015, 12:19 AM
I had a Cohiba Red Dot from a CI Tremendous Twelve (?) sampler that sat at 62% for 2+ months. The first 1/3 was nothing stand out; then it turned sour/acrid and I couldn't finish it.
Still disappointed on that; will try another but major letdown :(

I've had one marinating for a spell that I received in a sampler, but I'm in no rush to smoke it. I think I've had it for 5-6 months, but from what I've read, there may be not enough time to heal this smoke....

izkeh
03-10-2015, 06:07 AM
Here's a few things...

1) Not everyone will like Opus X.
2) They need significant nap time (like 3-4yrs) to get the best from them or so I've heard.
3) I've found significant flavour differences in the RG - a Power Ranger tastes different from a Petit Lancero and the DC tastes different from either. Same thing with the Anejos.

No offense meant here but...
1. NO cigar will appease EVERY person on the planet
2. If I'm paying upwards of $30 for a SINGLE cigar there is a level of expectation that comes with that. Waiting 3-4 years to smoke it is absurd.
3. I certainly wasn't wowed enough to spend ANOTHER $25-$30 on the same line

Conversely, I've had a PAM64 that was out of sight that I smoked a couple days after getting a 5-pack. It was half the price and 10X the cigar, IMO. And that's what this is really all about: Opinions.

Horseshoe
03-10-2015, 06:14 AM
Drew Estate Smoking Monk Porter. Guess I was expecting this to be great as I loved the idea of paring with Porter. It was bland, boring, and just blah. The first Drew Estate stick I was not thrilled with. Granted, I am new and I have only had about 5-7 DE's. It was not my cup of tea.

Yarddog
03-10-2015, 07:24 AM
I've told this story elsewhere, but for me, it was both the LP #9 and a Padron 1926...both are legendary smokes. I smoked them within a few days of each other after much anticipation...and they were good sticks, but were they better than some costing a third the price? Absolutely not. I read about folks dissing the Gurkhas because of their over-inflated MSRP's...for me, these two ceegars fit into that same category!

Now, mind you, that's just me...looks like I'm not the only one!

lvfcrook1503
03-10-2015, 07:35 AM
Every Alec Bradley I've smoked, except 1.

Brazil Maxx, Tempus maduro and Black Market Punk all sucked ass. I don't think the BM Punk would have been bad but the draw as terrible. Like a super thick milkshake.

Now the Nica Puro I like quiet a bit.

This!!! Only one I've liked is the Prensado

BryGuySC
03-10-2015, 07:45 AM
For me, it was the Oliva O robusto. Granted, it was early into my cigar experience; but I remember being so disappointed. Up until then, I had smoked a few Fuentes; and this one tasted completely different. I wasn't ready for that, and couldn't stand it. Maybe I'll try it again, one day; but I've got so many others in the humi, that I don't know when I'd get around to it!

frodo
03-10-2015, 08:11 AM
If I'm paying upwards of $30 for a SINGLE cigar there is a level of expectation that comes with that. Waiting 3-4 years to smoke it is absurd.

I must confess I think this point is eminently reasonable (as are your others).

I think I've just got used to thinking this is a norm for full-bodied cigars. Padron and LP both make sure they put out stuff ready to smoke so it can be done.

garublador
03-10-2015, 08:55 AM
I found these underwhelming as well. I had two well rested ones. They were good, just not great to me.That's how I feel about them too. I like them, but they just aren't anything special like they're made out to be by some. I will say that if that is as underwhelmed as I ever get by a cigar then I'll be extremely happy.

JollyRogers
03-10-2015, 09:04 AM
Granted I'm still very new but tried a AF Hemingway Short Story this past weekend and it was terrible! Hoping I got a dud but I couldn't finish it. Really disappointed as I have heard great things, have another resting and hoping it will be better!

flyfisher2
03-10-2015, 09:30 AM
Granted I'm still very new but tried a AF Hemingway Short Story this past weekend and it was terrible! Hoping I got a dud but I couldn't finish it. Really disappointed as I have heard great things, have another resting and hoping it will be better!

I had one about a week ago and was terrible as well.....i have another one resting with the hopes of it improving as well.


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Sticky B
03-10-2015, 11:35 AM
I had one about a week ago and was terrible as well.....i have another one resting with the hopes of it improving as well.


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Granted I'm still very new but tried a AF Hemingway Short Story this past weekend and it was terrible! Hoping I got a dud but I couldn't finish it. Really disappointed as I have heard great things, have another resting and hoping it will be better!

Holy carp, this is one of my fav go-to cigars!

Perhaps more rest is needed. I just love that sweet Cameroon wrapper, yum:p

Horsefeathers
03-10-2015, 12:21 PM
The Las Calaveras. The hype to let down ratio was huge. I could tell it was a good cigar, but flavor was not my wheelhouse.

spyder
03-10-2015, 12:46 PM
Holy carp, this is one of my fav go-to cigars!
Perhaps more rest is needed. I just love that sweet Cameroon wrapper, yum:p

I also enjoy the Hemingway line, but do find they have been hit and miss over the past 10 years or so. Most of the negative side for me has been excess tar, but also some construction issues.

Also, I consider the whole "more rest is needed" argument to be a direct ding against any and all brands. AFAIC, if a manufacturer releases a cigar for sale, whether the price point be $15 or $3, they should be ready to smoke immediately. Granted a short time for possible humidity adjustment might be needed for an optimal smoking experience, but that should be a week or two - not months.

The biggest recent disappointment for me was the DE Undercrown. Tried a couple last year and they were very Underwhelming.

Sticky B
03-10-2015, 12:51 PM
I had one about a week ago and was terrible as well.....i have another one resting with the hopes of it improving as well.


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I also enjoy the Hemingway line, but do find they have been hit and miss over the past 10 years or so. Most of the negative side for me has been excess tar, but also some construction issues.

Also, I consider the whole "more rest is needed" argument to be a direct ding against any and all brands. AFAIC, if a manufacturer releases a cigar for sale, whether the price point be $15 or $3, they should be ready to smoke immediately. Granted a short time for possible humidity adjustment might be needed for an optimal smoking experience, but that should be a week or two - not months.

The biggest recent disappointment for me was the DE Undercrown. Tried a couple last year and they were very Underwhelming.

Oh, by rest, I meant humidity acclimation. But this can take months depending on what the cigar is arriving at. General rule is humidity of cigar will change 1%/week during adjustment, so if I get cigars at even 70% and want to smoke them at sweet 63%, that would take 7 weeks for the cigars to actually adjust. To me, that is "rest". And smoking a cigar before it is at the right humidity will often lead to construction, burn, flavor, and other enjoyment issues that may be accidentally pinned on a cigar itself.

Not saying tastes don't vary, but I feel a fair chance needs to be given to a blend before judgement. Smoking conditions have more to do with the experience than many think

Tobias Lutz
03-10-2015, 01:06 PM
Here is something a little different. Not asking for the worst or best cigar ever. But what was your biggest Letdown?


UGA vs. Bama, SEC Championship, December 2012 :blue:

For a cigar...Any of the DE Pigs. None of them were bad, but that vitola just isn't hitting on anything for me.

AuTechCoM
03-10-2015, 01:18 PM
UGA vs. Bama, SEC Championship, December 2012 :blue:

For a cigar...Any of the DE Pigs. None of them were bad, but that vitola just isn't hitting on anything for me.

I haven't had the opportunity to try any pigs other than the FFP. I don't think the UC or the KFC would be worth the trouble to get a hold of, however I might trade some dignity for a few boxes of FFP

Billb1960
03-10-2015, 01:37 PM
Holy carp, this is one of my fav go-to cigars!



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cheaphumidors
03-10-2015, 01:52 PM
That's how the LP 9 was for me. Now that I know what to expect it's a good cigar but for me not worth the price and certainly not worth chasing it around. The only upside is they sell very quickly on the "secondary" market.

I felt the same way Bill! Even worse... I bought it retail at my local B&M (that is known for their super high prices) instead of going through one of my wholesale suppliers. Boo!

jhedrick83
03-10-2015, 03:21 PM
UGA vs. Bama, SEC Championship, December 2012 :blue:



Funny you say that, I was going to go with Charles Woodson winning the Heisman over Peyton Manning, but decided to keep in cigar related!

spyder
03-10-2015, 04:18 PM
Oh, by rest, I meant humidity acclimation. But this can take months depending on what the cigar is arriving at. General rule is humidity of cigar will change 1%/week during adjustment, so if I get cigars at even 70% and want to smoke them at sweet 63%, that would take 7 weeks for the cigars to actually adjust. To me, that is "rest". And smoking a cigar before it is at the right humidity will often lead to construction, burn, flavor, and other enjoyment issues that may be accidentally pinned on a cigar itself.

Question: How do you know the humidity level of the cigars you receive?

AuTechCoM
03-10-2015, 04:21 PM
Question: How do you know the humidity level of the cigars you receive?

you can get an idea by putting a hydro in a bag with the sticks

Sticky B
03-10-2015, 05:29 PM
I had one about a week ago and was terrible as well.....i have another one resting with the hopes of it improving as well.


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you can get an idea by putting a hydro in a bag with the sticks


Question: How do you know the humidity level of the cigars you receive?

I just assume them all to be at 70% really. I used to keep track of things more, but I have enough stock that keeping things safely in the back of rotation until they are surely adjusted is relatively easy

droy1958
03-10-2015, 07:34 PM
Probably a Liga Niner. I just assumed I would have six to eight virgins fly in on wings by the time I got through the first third and do my bidding. They never came, and neither did I... Nice cigar though.....