Homerollers - Stand Up and Be Counted!

[Bruck]

There were a few of us on the old forum who were home-rollers, and I was just wondering how many of us have made it over to the new site. Or maybe there are some cigar craftspeople here who weren't on the old site, for that matter.

I just rolled another batch over the weekend, and put the wrappers on this afternoon.

http://i.imgur.com/srL9HE0.jpg

They'll sit on the drying rack for a day or so, then they'll hume at 65% RH for a few weeks before they're ready to smoke.

Wrapper is Ecuador Shade, binder is "one sucker" dark air, and the fillers are various combinations of Criollo ligero, Brazilian viso, Piloto Cubano Seco (Dominican), and burley from KY. Lengths range from 4" to 8", RG on the big ones is 52, and 48 for the smaller ones. Most of them are not capped - I have only a few molds that have rounded ends to facilitate same, and IMHO caps aren't really necessary anyway.

My pseudo-brand name is "Brohiba" - I hope the real Cohiba company doesn't mind :)

So, does anyone else roll their own?

[Tobias Lutz]

So, does anyone else roll their own?

http://cheechandchong.com/wp-content/gallery/new-sample-gallery/cheech-and-chong1.jpg

All joking aside- Bruce rolls nice cigars. I've smoked a number of Brohibas, and I envy his patience in learning the craft. I don't see it in my future.

[Bruck]

LOL, maybe I should move across the border into DC and start rolling blunts, now that it's "legal" there :)

[MattyMatt]

I am not a roller but I appreciate the time, skill and craftsmanship that goes in to producing the cigars we love. I find myself always drawn to watching cigar rolling videos. Even when I am smoking a cigar, I sometimes find myself thinking about all that went in to getting it to its final destination.

Hats off to you for immersing yourself even further into this wonderful hobby.

[HIM]

Some of my recent stuff...

Robusto - corojo 99 seco, criollo 98 ligero, Dom binder, PA broadleaf oscuro wrapper
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Toro - piloto cubano seco, corojo 99 viso, Brazilian mata fina viso, criollo 98 ligero, Dom binder, CT broadleaf maduro wrapper


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[Ropey]

Been reading some old threads on DIY rolling, I'm very close to buying a starter kit. How long does it take to get non-retarded at it?

[OnePyroTec]

My pseudo-brand name is "Brohiba" - I hope the real Cohiba company doesn't mind :)

So, does anyone else roll their own?

Like "Brohiba" Much better sounding than the "Butthiba" that was given to me after the first time I used the Brazilian Maduro that like to wrinkle.
Still in long term semi-retirement BUT have been playing with some leaves and got some new old stock bands for when I finally get back to the cutting table.

[HIM]

I'd say if you order a kit by the time your done with it you'll have a pretty good handle on the process. With the few extra things you'll need besides the leaf the whole start up is less than $100 and you should at least get a box worth of cigars out of it. The smaller the vitolas you roll the more cigars you can get out of it.

[OnePyroTec]

Some of my recent stuff...

Robusto - corojo 99 seco, criollo 98 ligero, Dom binder, PA broadleaf oscuro wrapper
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Toro - piloto cubano seco, corojo 99 viso, Brazilian mata fina viso, criollo 98 ligero, Dom binder, CT broadleaf maduro wrapper


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Can you still buy crop leaf from the 90's or have you been hoarding it?

[HIM]

No its just the name of the tobacco strain.

[OnePyroTec]

Oh darn. I have some left from the mid & late 90's just that I know when it is gone, it is gone. I was really hoping you were going to have the answer to my dreams.

[HIM]

I wish I did sorry bro

[Engineer99]

Don't make them too nice...you might disappear in the middle of the night and wake up chained to a rolling table in some central American country rolling customs for some tin pot dictator.

[Cool Breeze]

Dammit, now I'm interested in this. That's all I need. Another hobby. :eek:
I've watched a few Youtube vids on it and it sure looks fun to play with different blends and try to come up with something you like.

[KungFumeta]

Where might one find the starter kits that have been mentioned?
I've been eyeing molds for a while but they all seem eye-waterinly expensive and I don't quite fancy making my own out of PVC tubing...

[T.E.Fox]

Looking pretty good guys. My only suggestion is that you home rollers sell some to us mugs to try some day!

[tmoran]

I got a starter set this past Christmas and have only rolled 2 batches of 4 each so far. Ecuador shade wrapper, Sumatra binder, Dominican seco and Dominican ligero for the filler. I cut the ligero proportion in half compared to the recommendation. I smoked 1 from each batch so far, and they were good, but I think would benefit from the extra ligero. The second batch had much better construction. The only thing I haven't bought yet is molds. I've been using paper towels after rolling the binder to give a better shape and it has worked pretty well so far.

Here is my first batch. Not pretty, but not a bad start. The one I had from this batch had a really tight draw. I am hoping the rest are better.

http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a483/tmoran1983/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20150109_001_zps6c1a812b.jpg (http://s1280.photobucket.com/user/tmoran1983/media/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20150109_001_zps6c1a812b.jpg.html)

And here is my second batch. A small improvement in the looks department. The one I smoked from this batch burned perfect.

http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a483/tmoran1983/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20150111_001_zps1556c63e.jpg (http://s1280.photobucket.com/user/tmoran1983/media/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20150111_001_zps1556c63e.jpg.html)

[OnePyroTec]

Where might one find the starter kits that have been mentioned?
I've been eyeing molds for a while but they all seem eye-waterinly expensive and I don't quite fancy making my own out of PVC tubing...

This place is a lot cheaper than when I started and has a good variety.
https://www.leafonly.com/cigar-tobacco-leaf/tobacco-kits

[HIM]

This place is a lot cheaper than when I started and has a good variety.
https://www.leafonly.com/cigar-tobacco-leaf/tobacco-kits

I got my wooden 48RG mold from leaf only and so far I'm happy with it. Works great if you don't have a vice or a press. They're also where I've been getting my CT broadleaf wrapper from. Sucks they recently stopped selling sample sizes.

[Jaybird]

NOT READING THIS THREAD! NOT READING THIS THREAD! NOT READING THIS THREAD!

UHHHHHHHH I AM READING THIS THREAD!

Damn nice looking sticks guys! Cole you are turning into a freeking master in no time man! how long are you aging those bad boys? have you let any of them get through the sick period yet?

Cheers
Jay

[HIM]

Thanks Jay. I make sure to smoke one the day after I wrap and the others I plan to leave for at least 2 months to get through the sick phase. Saka says it should take up to 60 days post roll depending on how heavy the leaf is. It was hard at first but now I'm building the stash up to where I should have a good pipeline as long as I keep up with it.

[quo155]

Bruce, I still roll a cigar here and there...not as often as I'd like, but I can let all that great leaf go to waste! I've not even been on the other forum FTT in awhile.

But, I enjoy "watching" you and others...someday I'll have more time.

Oh, I did end up finding my cigar mold, finally...still have yet to use it.

Thanks for keeping it alive!

[KungFumeta]

This place is a lot cheaper than when I started and has a good variety.
https://www.leafonly.com/cigar-tobacco-leaf/tobacco-kits

Aaaah, screw... Even considering that with shipping to Spain its gonna come close to 100 bucks Im still seriously tempted...
Now in know where to find it. Definitely bookmarked. Thanks for the tip!

[Bruck]

Been reading some old threads on DIY rolling, I'm very close to buying a starter kit. How long does it take to get non-retarded at it?

It took me a few tries to make a workable cigar, then maybe 20 before one looked halfway decent :) I just noticed they now sell starter kits at leafonly dot com.

[Bruck]

Some of my recent stuff...

Robusto - corojo 99 seco, criollo 98 ligero, Dom binder, PA broadleaf oscuro wrapper
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Toro - piloto cubano seco, corojo 99 viso, Brazilian mata fina viso, criollo 98 ligero, Dom binder, CT broadleaf maduro wrapper


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Nice work, Cole! How long you been at it?

[Bruck]

Dammit, now I'm interested in this. That's all I need. Another hobby. :eek:
I've watched a few Youtube vids on it and it sure looks fun to play with different blends and try to come up with something you like.

Yes, that's the fun of it - making unique blends.

[Bruck]

Bruce, I still roll a cigar here and there...not as often as I'd like, but I can let all that great leaf go to waste! I've not even been on the other forum FTT in awhile.

But, I enjoy "watching" you and others...someday I'll have more time.

Oh, I did end up finding my cigar mold, finally...still have yet to use it.

Thanks for keeping it alive!

I feel a little guilty that I don't hang out much on FTT anymore - life/work have been getting busier & I find I only have time for this forum. Be sure to post some "pix of your stix" next time you roll.

[Bruck]

I got my wooden 48RG mold from leaf only and so far I'm happy with it. Works great if you don't have a vice or a press. They're also where I've been getting my CT broadleaf wrapper from. Sucks they recently stopped selling sample sizes.

Larry the Tobacco Butcher has some good CT broad that I use for wrappers. Way cheaper than leafonly and wholeleaf. A little more "rustic" through.

[Bruck]

Very nice, Tim! Those look a heck of a lot better than my first 20 or 30 :)

[HIM]

Nice work, Cole! How long you been at it?

Thanks Bruce Ive been at it since October. I feel like Im picking it up pretty quick.


Larry the Tobacco Butcher has some good CT broad that I use for wrappers. Way cheaper than leafonly and wholeleaf. A little more "rustic" through.

I was going to ask you if you'd used his broadleaf when you posted a link to his site. I got the impression it was unsorted, is this the case?

[Bruck]

Thanks Bruce Ive been at it since October. I feel like Im picking it up pretty quick.



I was going to ask you if you'd used his broadleaf when you posted a link to his site. I got the impression it was unsorted, is this the case?

Yes, you just get a big bag of leaves from him. But so far the've been pretty much all useable, i.e., every leaf has at least a few wrappers' worth of lamina to it. I have to iron down the thicker subveins, but that's true of leafonly's CT broad as well, just the nature of the leaf.

[HIM]

Yes, you just get a big bag of leaves from him. But so far the've been pretty much all useable, i.e., every leaf has at least a few wrappers' worth of lamina to it. I have to iron down the thicker subveins, but that's true of leafonly's CT broad as well, just the nature of the leaf.

Right no getting around it if you want to use broadleaf. I don't mind though its by far my favorite wrapper. I'll keep him in mind when I come up with a blend using broadleaf in the filler. I have a bunch of the 08 CT broad from leaf only and have gotten some beautiful and very dark wrappers out of it. Most of what I have left is filler grade so I'll be working on the blend soon. I'm thinking something like 2 corojo seco, 1 CT broad, and 1 criollo ligero wrapped in more broadleaf could be a nice combination.

[Bruck]

Right no getting around it if you want to use broadleaf. I don't mind though its by far my favorite wrapper. I'll keep him in mind when I come up with a blend using broadleaf in the filler. I have a bunch of the 08 CT broad from leaf only and have gotten some beautiful and very dark wrappers out of it. Most of what I have left is filler grade so I'll be working on the blend soon. I'm thinking something like 2 corojo seco, 1 CT broad, and 1 criollo ligero wrapped in more broadleaf could be a nice combination.

That would be a nice smoke! Piloto Cubano Seco, which I think is Dominican, would also work. You might also try this with a shade wrapper.

Ancient Chinese secret - some of the binder and filler leaves have enough unblemished lamina to use for wrappers for the smaller robustos. I don't normally do this though, as Larry's CT broad is so cheap, something like $12 or $14 a pound.

[HIM]

That would be a nice smoke! Piloto Cubano Seco, which I think is Dominican, would also work. You might also try this with a shade wrapper.

Ancient Chinese secret - some of the binder and filler leaves have enough unblemished lamina to use for wrappers for the smaller robustos. I don't normally do this though, as Larry's CT broad is so cheap, something like $12 or $14 a pound.

I love piloto! It pairs really well with brazilian mata fina. The mata fina has that bitterness to it and the piloto turns it right into cream. It royally sucks they won't be carrying it anymore.
I get pretty creative in finding a decent bit of wrapper in a leaf. I roll a lot of PCs and coronas which also helps a lot. It also makes the leaf go a bit further since I can get 4-6 sticks out of one full wrapper leaf compared to 2 rollin bigger vitolas.

[Bruck]

I love piloto! It pairs really well with brazilian mata fina. The mata fina has that bitterness to it and the piloto turns it right into cream. It royally sucks they won't be carrying it anymore.
I get pretty creative in finding a decent bit of wrapper in a leaf. I roll a lot of PCs and coronas which also helps a lot. It also makes the leaf go a bit further since I can get 4-6 sticks out of one full wrapper leaf compared to 2 rollin bigger vitolas.

I can usually get 4 wrappers out of a good-sized leaf. I do a mix of robustos, toros, and churchills mainly, with the occasional mega-churchill (8x52). I've got a perfector mold that I don't use too often.

[Marc L]

What is up you all! I'm glad you started this thread! I thought I'd let one of y'all start something. Lets start a RYO sub-form going.

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[Bruck]

What is up you all! I'm glad you started this thread! I thought I'd let one of y'all start something. Lets start a RYO sub-form going.

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I think it would get some traction. Tobias Lutz, can you hook us up?

[Tobias Lutz]

I think it would get some traction. Tobias Lutz, can you hook us up?

I reported your post so we can discuss the details.

[Bruck]

I reported your post so we can discuss the details.

Tnx OM

[Marc L]

How is it that I can't seem to get images to display full size without clicking on them?
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[Bruck]

How is it that I can't seem to get images to display full size without clicking on them?
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I use imgur.com. A lot of other ppl use photobucket. Either way, upload your pix there then copy/paste the location here - they come out full size that way.

[Marc L]

Thank you!

https://www.helpmeoutdoc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/cigar.jpg

[HIM]

I see leaf only has 2001 PA broadleaf wrapper for sale by the lb. So tempting.

[Demuths1770]

i should not have read this thread!!! I have been to cigar rolling events and had my hand at puting a wraper on a cigar and really enjoyed it. this is just to tempting now

[Marc L]

Really? If you have some time and interest, you should.

click here cigar making (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Fair+Trade+Tobacco+DOT+com)

[Bruck]

Plus you have a bunch of us with varying levels of experience to lean on here.

In ham radio, the older, experienced guy who helps the new guy get started is called an "Elmer." What would the cigar rolling equivalent be?

[GDaddy]

Howdy fellas...just got wind of the discussion.

Still rolling everyday and it's great fun. So many variations and blends to play with. Anyone who thinks they might like it should at least try a sample pack.

In a short time you can be rolling out some great cigars. Don't believe that it takes years of practice... it doesn't.

To see if you can roll a cigar try this simple test using only paper towels. If you can do this you can do a cigar.

Test your skills...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPRRrhx8NA8

[GDaddy]

Being from Lake Mary Florida I aptly named my cigar the "Lago Maria"

http://i.imgur.com/uz8Qe1G.jpg

[HIM]

I was wondering when you were going to make an appearance :D


A few test rolls following the supposed Caldwell Eastern Standard blend but with different primings.

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[bobajob]

Being from Lake Mary Florida I aptly named my cigar the "Lago Maria"

http://i.imgur.com/uz8Qe1G.jpg

Do you ever make it down to Orlando, and if so can I buy you a stick in exchange for trying one of yours? :)

[Marc L]

..um

[Jaybird]

Really? If you have some time and interest, you should.

click here cigar making (http://fairtradetobacco.com/forums/69-Cigar-Forum)

YOU SUCK! I am Jaybird there as of 2 min ago! Did I say YOU SUCK already? DAMN YOU!!!!!!!

Cheers
Jay

[Marc L]

How about, ... we come up with some realistic things to expect as a beginner thinking about rolling. Like, time, money or methods?

I like the rolling test video thing. I had to try it. though, I added news paper as filler instead. It feels more like tobacco to me.

Another thing when I started; I really wanted to wrap some cigars so, I got a cheap bundle and some fronto leaf to wrap them with. Also, I would removed wrappers then reapplied them. I brought it as far as to deconstructing, then reconstructing them by dampening the cigar so it could taken apart without tearing the leaves.

[HIM]

Definitely a helpful video. I don't remove the mid ribs though. I heard the guy from JDN mention in one of their Cigar Safari videos that they're supposed to help give the cigar structure and better combustion.

[Bruck]

Being from Lake Mary Florida I aptly named my cigar the "Lago Maria"

http://i.imgur.com/uz8Qe1G.jpg

DON!!!

Glad you finally made it :)

[Bruck]

I like the rolling test video thing. I had to try it. though, I added news paper as filler instead. It feels more like tobacco to me.


But paper towel tastes better :)

[defetis]

DON!!!

Glad you finally made it :)

You rolled anything else since the last sampler I got sir? crazy good would love another round. I cant remember what you said the little guy was but I still think about it

[Bruck]

You rolled anything else since the last sampler I got sir? crazy good would love another round. I cant remember what you said the little guy was but I still think about it

Glad to send you a few - I roll about a batch or two a month. Basically the same blends as before, slight differences.

[DrBob]

Freshly in, and still home rolling, making a new batch this weekend

[HIM]

Rolled a few more Eastern Standard "clones" earlier. Should be ready to wrap later tonight.

[quo155]

Looks like "the gang" is all beginning to roll on in here!

Y'all gonna make me pull out the leaf and get back to rolling soon!

[HIM]

Looks like "the gang" is all beginning to roll on in here!

Y'all gonna make me pull out the leaf and get back to rolling soon!

Whatcha waiting for?

[quo155]

Whatcha waiting for?

Cole...time man, time! Time, or the lack thereof...is my worst enemy.

[HIM]

Fair enough I guess your off the hook then

[DrBob]

Here are my latest, 5th batch to be precise.

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[HIM]

For only your 5th batch it looks like you've got the process down!

[DrBob]

Batch 4 looked much better, Ecuadorian CT Shade Grown wrappers almost put themselves on!

[HIM]

I forget how much easier some wrappers are to work with. I pretty much wrap everything with broadleaf which has the reputation of sort being a PITA.

[Bruck]

Here are my latest, 5th batch to be precise.

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Nice job, Dr. Bob (like the rhyme?)

Good caps. How do they smoke?

[Bruck]

I forget how much easier some wrappers are to work with. I pretty much wrap everything with broadleaf which has the reputation of sort being a PITA.

True that. But flavorwise, it's the best! I like it better than maduro, which it almost is anyway. Some day, maybe in my next batch, I'm going to try a CT broadleaf puro - wrapper, binder, and filler :)

[DrBob]

Nice job, Dr. Bob (like the rhyme?)

Good caps. How do they smoke?

Hey Bruck, been using the triple cap since the start, as I have a friend who milled me some very nice molds, I haven't had one smoke bad yet or fall apart. I use xanthan gum fairly liberally when capping. not always pretty but effective. I know you tend to not cap yours, but I can usually get one on even on paper rolled cigars (the top one in the image is paper rolled).

[HIM]

True that. But flavorwise, it's the best! I like it better than maduro, which it almost is anyway. Some day, maybe in my next batch, I'm going to try a CT broadleaf puro - wrapper, binder, and filler :)

Agreed thats why its all I really care to use. Im a sucker for broadleaf lol. Ive tried rolling a few double maduros and came to the conclusion the leaf is so thick its hard to keep a good burn. Wrapping in seco followed by broadleaf helped a lot.

[DrBob]

I forget how much easier some wrappers are to work with. I pretty much wrap everything with broadleaf which has the reputation of sort being a PITA.

Here are my batch 4, with the Ecuadorian Shade Grown CT wrappers. 1429

[GDaddy]

Here are my batch 4, with the Ecuadorian Shade Grown CT wrappers. 1429

Those look great. Can't get much better. The caps are very nice also. Well done!!

[DrBob]

Good molds help a lot, along with a cooperative wrapper, these are the molds I use:

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GDaddy do you still have a guy that makes yours? I started rolling because of your videos, and Bruck's Brohibas :)

[HIM]

The mold I have isn't as nice as some of the ones Ive seen you guys with. But since I don't have a vice or press the wing nut design does the trick pretty well. So far no complaints with it. My biggest issue is that I need to make a smaller cap cutter. The one I have now the caps are too big and look like sh!t. Its kind of subtle but the right sized cap goes a long way in the overall aesthetics IMO.

[Marc L]

....these are the molds I use:

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Well, these are nice. Did you make them?

[GDaddy]

The mold I have isn't as nice as some of the ones Ive seen you guys with. But since I don't have a vice or press the wing nut design does the trick pretty well. So far no complaints with it. My biggest issue is that I need to make a smaller cap cutter. The one I have now the caps are too big and look like sh!t. Its kind of subtle but the right sized cap goes a long way in the overall aesthetics IMO.

I roll mostly 52 rg and use a 3/4" copper elbow from Home Depot. They have 1/2" also. Works great.

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[HIM]

I roll mostly 52 rg and use a 3/4" copper elbow from Home Depot. They have 1/2" also. Works great.

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What size you think I'd need for 48-50 RG? 1/2"?

[GDaddy]

What size you think I'd need for 48-50 RG? 1/2"?

Not sure but they are pretty inexpensive.

[DrBob]

Well, these are nice. Did you make them?

I have a friend with a nice woodworking shop who made them.

[HIM]

Not sure but they are pretty inexpensive.

This is true. I'll just grab a few different sizes and see which one works.

[DrBob]

This is true. I'll just grab a few different sizes and see which one works.

Need to do this as well, currently cutting them with scissors, please post back if 1/2 inch works for 48-50 rg.

[Sigaar]

I'm thinking about giving this a go. Is this kit a good place to start...it says it's good for 8 cigars, but wondering how many of the first 8 will be complete garbage with a total noob rolling? Should I start with more tobacco?

https://www.leafonly.com/cigar-tobacco-leaf/tobacco-kits/cigar-rolling-starter-kit

[Marc L]

I'm thinking about giving this a go. Is this kit a good place to start...it says it's good for 8 cigars, but wondering how many of the first 8 will be complete garbage with a total noob rolling? Should I start with more tobacco?

https://www.leafonly.com/cigar-tobacco-leaf/tobacco-kits/cigar-rolling-starter-kit

Here is a video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubCWB_nrF3w

... and keep these in mind. they will not last. whole leaf blends (http://wholeleaftobacco.com/Whole-Leaf-Cigar-Blends_c30.htm)

[Bruck]

I'm thinking about giving this a go. Is this kit a good place to start...it says it's good for 8 cigars, but wondering how many of the first 8 will be complete garbage with a total noob rolling? Should I start with more tobacco?

https://www.leafonly.com/cigar-tobacco-leaf/tobacco-kits/cigar-rolling-starter-kit

That's probably as good a way to get started as any. Realistically, you're probably going to "invest" a certain amount of time and materials before you get good at it, i.e., don't expect to come out of this with 8 Davidoffs :) If the RYO bug catches hold of you, you'll be getting more tobacco and better supplies/equipment, and end up saving a ton of cash in the long run. But if not, well, not too big a loss.

I keep detailed notes, and since I started a little over a year ago, I've rolled 277 cigars at a total cost of $630, $402 of which is in consumables, mostly the tobacco itself.

[HIM]

I'm thinking about giving this a go. Is this kit a good place to start...it says it's good for 8 cigars, but wondering how many of the first 8 will be complete garbage with a total noob rolling? Should I start with more tobacco?

https://www.leafonly.com/cigar-tobacco-leaf/tobacco-kits/cigar-rolling-starter-kit

I recommend this kit... http://wholeleaftobacco.com/Terroso-Profundo-CgrBlnd4.htm

Ive been rolling this blend but wrapped in broadleaf and its really damn good. The flavor profile is in line with a lot of $8-10 cigars IMO. The kit is cheaper than the one you posted and you should get ~20 cigars out of it. By the time you go through the kit you'll know whether you want to keep up with the hobby and should also have a better handle on the rolling process. I destroyed a lot of leaf in the learning curve and only having 8 cigars worth of leaf would have basically left me with nothing.
FWIW a buddy of mine on another forum picked up this kit with a lb of PA Oscuro binder on my recommendation and he's hooked.

Just wanted to add... I have the Cameroon wrapper Leaf Only offers and they are pretty small. They can wrap a corona but not by much.

[DrBob]

I started with the whole leaf Terroso Kit as well, they do make really good tasting cigars. Aside from the leaf you really only need a good sized cutting board, some scissors, some xanthan gum powder (gluten free section at walmart... a little goes a long way) and a nice sharp non-wobbly pizza cutter. Molds can be constructed from PVC pipe with some pipe clamps. You can buy some, or you can use a technique called paper rolling and skip molds altogether.


I highly suggest watching GDaddy's videos. The first two times i rolled I had them on ytube on my tv and was watching them as i went through the process.

[Leaf Only John]

Hey guys,

This is John from Leaf Only (www.leafonly.com).

I see some awesome looking sticks on here - great work guys. I'm impressed!

If anybody has any questions about our leaves, products, or anything at all really, let me know and I will do my best to answer! I don't know everything there is to know, but I've learned a lot over the past 5 years that might help anyone on the RYO journey. Take care!

[Marc L]

Hi John,

Good to see you here.

[DrBob]

Well to Cigar Bum!

[HIM]

Hey guys,

This is John from Leaf Only (www.leafonly.com).

I see some awesome looking sticks on here - great work guys. I'm impressed!

If anybody has any questions about our leaves, products, or anything at all really, let me know and I will do my best to answer! I don't know everything there is to know, but I've learned a lot over the past 5 years that might help anyone on the RYO journey. Take care!

Really cool to see you on board John welcome to Cigar Bum!! Is there any chance you guys will start carrying piloto cubano?

[GDaddy]

Really cool to see you on board John welcome to Cigar Bum!! Is there any chance you guys will start carrying piloto cubano?

Piloto would be a nice addition however, he does have a pretty nice selection as it is. Bruck sent me a cigar using the Colombian seco and I liked it very much. The Honduran is flavorful also. The Brazilian wrapper is next on my list.

I use his Volado as binder in almost every cigar. For combustion only. Tight burn lines.

[GDaddy]

Hey guys,

This is John from Leaf Only (www.leafonly.com).

I see some awesome looking sticks on here - great work guys. I'm impressed!

If anybody has any questions about our leaves, products, or anything at all really, let me know and I will do my best to answer! I don't know everything there is to know, but I've learned a lot over the past 5 years that might help anyone on the RYO journey. Take care!

Welcome John!!

A suggestion that I believe would be very helpful would be more descriptive flavor profiles of the tobacco and a strength rating of 0 to 10. Volado (1) Nicaraguan ligero (10) etc... With as many selections you have it can be difficult to decide. Thoughts to ponder.

[HIM]

Piloto would be a nice addition however, he does have a pretty nice selection as it is. Bruck sent me a cigar using the Colombian seco and I liked it very much. The Honduran is flavorful also. The Brazilian wrapper is next on my list.

I use his Volado as binder in almost every cigar. For combustion only. Tight burn lines.

He definitely has a lot of good leaf. Love the broadleaf wrapper.

[Leaf Only John]

1) BIG SHAME ON OUR MARKETING DEPARTMENT (namely, me) - All of our Dominican fillers are actually of Piloto Cubano seed. I think I recall seeing a few bales of Criollo in the past, but based on what I saw today, it's all PC.

2) Thanks for the suggestion GDaddy! Definitely something we will consider. The biggest challenge in that is just getting the numbers right, especially with crop and leaf variances. Something for us to work on for sure! The problem you're describing has always been one of the biggest issues I've had with our site / business as we've grown. So much going on, it's hard even for experienced rollers to see everything. I imagine that for someone who's never tried it, we might be losing business of that... Oh well - going to just keep buying more types and add to the confusion. :)

3) Speaking of which, I've got a line on some San Andreas Mexican Wrapper that's supposed to be coming in soon. Can't wait to see the samples!

[GDaddy]

1) BIG SHAME ON OUR MARKETING DEPARTMENT (namely, me) - All of our Dominican fillers are actually of Piloto Cubano seed. I think I recall seeing a few bales of Criollo in the past, but based on what I saw today, it's all PC.

2) Thanks for the suggestion GDaddy! Definitely something we will consider. The biggest challenge in that is just getting the numbers right, especially with crop and leaf variances. Something for us to work on for sure! The problem you're describing has always been one of the biggest issues I've had with our site / business as we've grown. So much going on, it's hard even for experienced rollers to see everything. I imagine that for someone who's never tried it, we might be losing business of that... Oh well - going to just keep buying more types and add to the confusion. :)

3) Speaking of which, I've got a line on some San Andreas Mexican Wrapper that's supposed to be coming in soon. Can't wait to see the samples!

One other point to make as you add to the selection in the future. There only 2 ligeros to choose from. Plenty of other selections but one more ligero would be nice. If you come across the Criollo 98 ligero it is excellent. I understand ligero is used in a smaller amount. IMO it's a big flavor component and people shouldn't be afraid of it and be encouraged to use more of it in their blends. IMHO.

[HIM]

Well thats damn good news! Ive gotten hooked on the sweet spice and vanilla character I get from piloto its delicious. And +1 on the criollo 98 ligero so far its my favorite of the 3 ligeros Ive tried.

[Bruck]

Hey guys,

This is John from Leaf Only (www.leafonly.com).

I see some awesome looking sticks on here - great work guys. I'm impressed!

If anybody has any questions about our leaves, products, or anything at all really, let me know and I will do my best to answer! I don't know everything there is to know, but I've learned a lot over the past 5 years that might help anyone on the RYO journey. Take care!

Welcome, John!
I'm one of your regular (but low volume) customers. Bought my first set of leaves from you last year. Keep up the good work!

[HIM]

Does anyone know if the Ecuadorian Habano wrapper at Leaf Only is the same variety as the Ecuadorian maduro WLT had? Never got to try the stuff from WLT but it sounds like a tasty wrapper.

[jhedrick83]

Does anyone know if the Ecuadorian Habano wrapper at Leaf Only is the same variety as the Ecuadorian maduro WLT had? Never got to try the stuff from WLT but it sounds like a tasty wrapper.

Leaf Only John might be able to help there.

[HIM]

Leaf Only John might be able to help there.

I'm not sure if he'd know since the other leaf is from a different vendor and hasn't been available for a little while now. But if he's got answers I won't complain lol.

[Leaf Only John]

Hey guys - you're right, I don't know for SURE, but based on the picture and his description, it looks to be similar if not the same. Specifically the MIDDLE leaf of his picture looks just like our Ecuadorian Ligero (https://www.leafonly.com/tobacco-leaf/tobacco-leaves/ecuadorian-ligero-tobacco-leaf-wrapper), but the other two look more like Connecticut broadleaf. Hard to know if it's EXACTLY the same, but if it isn't, it's got to be VERY close.

Hope that helps!

[HIM]

@LeafOnlyJohn has the Nicaraguan Ligero always been Criollo 98? I have some Nica ligero and viso I got from you ~6 months ago and have thought it was Nicaraguan Habano for some reason.

Edit - I think I found my answer. Im smelling the Nica ligero and the criollo 98 ligero I have side by side right now and they are nothing alike at all. I know leaf changes farm to farm and country to country but these don't have any similarities I can't imagine them being the same strain of tobacco.

[Sir Lancerolot]

I haven't rolled any for quite a while, but it's definitely something I enjoy.

My goal is to home-roll the bulk of my NC consumption, and spend the money I save to upscale my imaginary purchases.

[Herf N Turf]

I haven't rolled any for quite a while, but it's definitely something I enjoy.

My goal is to home-roll the bulk of my NC consumption, and spend the money I save to upscale my imaginary purchases.

It was when you got into this that I knew it was something we needed to highlight and support. You were very much on my mind when I built this subforum. I have no doubt that what you're rolling is probably every bit as good as what can be had off the shelf. I can imagine that the enjoyment derived from the simply "doing" of it can be as enticing as the hobby itself.

Good to see you back, Mike :D

[HIM]

Herf N Turf I gotta send you a sample of the new blend Ive been rolling. I think a lot about the stick I sent you and honestly kind of feel bad now knowing how it doesn't even compare. I feel like its a wrong I have to right lol.

[Herf N Turf]

Herf N Turf I gotta send you a sample of the new blend Ive been rolling. I think a lot about the stick I sent you and honestly kind of feel bad now knowing how it doesn't even compare. I feel like its a wrong I have to right lol.

Nothing wrong on my end, Cole. It's all good.

[HIM]

Finally getting around to trying some new wrappers out. Got leaf coming up to case for tomorrow... will wrap in Ecuadorian Habano 2000, San Andreas, and Criollo 98.

[HIM]

I got to wrapping with the Ecuadorian Habano ligero yesterday. Doesn't feel like it has a lot of stretch but its a lot easier to work with than broadleaf. Texture and thickness reminds me of a nice leaf of WLT Dominican binder. Will smoke my first sample either later tonight or some point this weekend and update with some tasting notes. GDaddy I know you were interested in this wrapper. I think it was pretty easy to work with and won't have any issue burning. The criollo 98 ligero is definitely thicker.

[Marc L]

I'm looking forward to your updates Cole. I really like the San Andreas wrappers. a little tricky but, not like other cigars I've had with them.

[GDaddy]

I got to wrapping with the Ecuadorian Habano ligero yesterday. Doesn't feel like it has a lot of stretch but its a lot easier to work with than broadleaf. Texture and thickness reminds me of a nice leaf of WLT Dominican binder. Will smoke my first sample either later tonight or some point this weekend and update with some tasting notes. GDaddy I know you were interested in this wrapper. I think it was pretty easy to work with and won't have any issue burning. The criollo 98 ligero is definitely thicker.

Yes, please let me know. It looks really interesting.

The criollo ligero is a little thicker and it comes out a little rougher in appearance but I like that look. I've enjoyed several of the criollo ligero wraps. I've also done some Honduran ligero as wrapper also and it was really good.

Can't wait to hear!

[HIM]

This wrapper goes really nice over this blend. This blend in broadleaf is nuttier with more cocoa. The Habano 2000 brings out more of the peppery notes in the Corojo with a bit of sweet spice and a little more strength and body.

Blend - 3 Nica criollo 98 ligero(leafonly)
3 Corojo 99 seco(WLT)
Dom Binder(WLT)
Ecuadorian Habano ligero(leafonly)

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[Marc L]

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[Bruck]

Marc - are the ones w/o labels your creations?

[Marc L]

Yes. I was trying to get as close in color as I could. the labeled one is from a double press half box $52 eBay score. good times!

[Bruck]

OK, tnx, very nice looking smokes!

[Randy956]

My hand is up but I haven't anything yet to show.

[Marc L]

My hand is up but I haven't anything yet to show.

Maybe back then. Your on the roll now and doing well.

[Randy956]

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[Randy956]

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[Nature]

Looking good, Randy. That looks like a well constructed cigar!

[AlanS]

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[Marc L]

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[Marc L]

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[Randy956]

This month I’ve only rolled 3!!!

I have to get motivated to roll for the future.