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Jonas
03-02-2015, 06:56 PM
Is there a specific type of tobacco that gives off the Cigarrety taste/aroma? I've smoked a few blends that had a bit too much of it and I really didn't enjoy it. Can't pick out what part of the blend is giving it off though.....
Tobias Lutz
03-02-2015, 07:14 PM
I believe that typically cigarettes are going to be Virginia, Burley, and Turkish leaf...and paper pulp...and 2000 additional chemicals :)
maybe Bruck would know?
MattyMatt
03-02-2015, 07:23 PM
I believe that typically cigarettes are going to be Virginia, Burley, and Turkish leaf...and paper pulp...and 2000 additional chemicals :)
maybe Bruck would know?
Yummy chemicals.......
Bruck
03-02-2015, 08:50 PM
https://archive.org/details/tobacco_kxz67e00
Bruck
03-02-2015, 08:54 PM
To the original question, yes, VA, burley, and oriental are the usual cigarette components. These are also prominent in many pipe tobaccos. I like to add a little burley to the hispanic leaves in my cigar fillers to give the flavor profile a little "cigaretty" edge.
Branzig
03-02-2015, 09:25 PM
I think it is the mainly the burley that gives off a big cig taste too me.
Jonas
03-02-2015, 11:35 PM
Wow I would have never guessed that those in particular were the contributors. They certainly dont smell as such in the bag.
Thanks for the replies!
cpmcdill
03-02-2015, 11:44 PM
How the tobacco is processed for pipe blends differs for the most part from how they are prepared for cigarettes. Casings, toppings, pressing into flake and other factors can change the flavor and in some instances the pH of the tobacco. Sometimes though blenders will use uncased burley or turkish, or shag-cut straight Virginia in a pipe mixture, and these will sometimes lend a cigarette note. Often burley and turkish are the offenders, but even a VA forward blend can get really acrid in a way that offends the nose.
BryGuySC
03-02-2015, 11:47 PM
Hmm. "Cigaretty" is what I want to avoid. My wife hates that smell.
mooster
03-03-2015, 02:02 AM
I know at least some cigs have perique. I don't know about cigs today, but "back in my day" you could definitely taste the oriental in Camel straights.
AlanS
03-03-2015, 09:34 PM
I think it is the mainly the burley that gives off a big cig taste too me.
I have to agree but you left out the rodent droppings!
cpmcdill
03-03-2015, 09:55 PM
I know at least some cigs have perique. I don't know about cigs today, but "back in my day" you could definitely taste the oriental in Camel straights.
There was a classic cig brand in the South called Picayune that had Perique, many decades ago. Other than that it is my understanding that there were no cigs with perique again until American Spirit introduced one on the market recently. Are there any others I've overlooked?
mooster
03-04-2015, 05:17 PM
Are there any others I've overlooked?
Maybe it is just the American Spirit. I should have said "I read" rather than "I know"; I've read that a lot of perique is sold to the cigarette trade. It was my (faulty?) assumption that it was in others as well.
cpmcdill
03-04-2015, 06:48 PM
Maybe it is just the American Spirit. I should have said "I read" rather than "I know"; I've read that a lot of perique is sold to the cigarette trade. It was my (faulty?) assumption that it was in others as well.
What happened with American Spirit is that by the late 90s the Perique farms had mostly died out, and there was only one farm left, which was down to its last few barrels, and the owner was thinking of throwing in the towel, which would have been the end for perique. The owner of American Spirit approached the farmer and promised to buy as much as they could if he'd try to get production back up. Then the Daughters & Ryan company set up more facilities and farms to revive the perique tradition, and the rest is history. As ubiquitous as perique seems now, a mere 15-20 years ago there wasn't miuch of it going around. VaPer fans would have been out of luck.
Here's a good article about "the last perique farmer"...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/05/us/tobacco-lovers-discover-mystique-of-perique.html?_r=0
c.ortiz108
03-04-2015, 06:51 PM
Cohiba Red Dot tasted like a giant cigarette to me. Never again.