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Pugsley
02-27-2015, 09:03 PM
I have several tins that are getting up there in age and am wondering how long to wait before popping one. I've never tried any of this blend and when I google for info on certain years I get links to people just drooling over this and willing to spend insane amounts of money on particular years. Has anyone had any of this, and can you tell me what makes it so in demand?

Branzig
02-27-2015, 10:24 PM
I have several tins that are getting up there in age and am wondering how long to wait before popping one. I've never tried any of this blend and when I google for info on certain years I get links to people just drooling over this and willing to spend insane amounts of money on particular years. Has anyone had any of this, and can you tell me what makes it so in demand?

If you aren't looking to sell them, I would smoke them.

Tobacco is processed to smoke, usually, I think anyways :p

Pugsley
02-27-2015, 10:42 PM
I'm not looking to sell them. I was just hoping someone here could tell me something about them. I find very little info on line from people who have smoked it, mostly just people who want to try it.

tmoran
02-27-2015, 10:48 PM
I only started buying it this year, and haven't tried any yet. I think mooster could probably give you the best insight.

Pugsley
02-27-2015, 10:54 PM
I'm most interested in knowing how the blends differ from year to year as the tins I have are from 3 different years.

Branzig
02-27-2015, 10:55 PM
I only started buying it this year, and haven't tried any yet. I think mooster could probably give you the best insight.

Agreed, mooster would be the expert here. The oldest I ever smoked was 2007...typical McClelland vinegar smell....dark bold Va with good natural tobacco sweetness and some spice on the tail end.

Just really good Va. If you like Va tobacco then I would pop it and smoke it.

cpmcdill
02-27-2015, 11:05 PM
Many reviews here, which will give insights into the flavors/aroma and smoked fresh vs aged

http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/brand/37/mcclelland

I have not tried the CC editions, but for any tobacco I turn to the reviews site.

Pugsley
02-27-2015, 11:24 PM
The oldest tin is from 2005 and you wouldn't believe how many times, over the years, that I've pulled it out of the cabinet intending to open it, but just couldn't bring myself to pull that tab.

Tobias Lutz
02-27-2015, 11:26 PM
I have a tin of 2000 that I actually split as part of a contest back in December. It smokes like an aged Virginia. I find the "vinegar" like McClelland note (which isn't as prevalent in CC anyhow, tends to dissipate quite a bit. It obviously get a bit sweeter, and I think it tastes "brighter"- almost like lemon Virginias. Shoot me your addy and I'll mail you a couple bowls full before you go cracking your own tins.

Pugsley
02-27-2015, 11:33 PM
Many reviews here, which will give insights into the flavors/aroma and smoked fresh vs aged

http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/brand/37/mcclelland

I have not tried the CC editions, but for any tobacco I turn to the reviews site.

I just went there and read the reviews on the 2005. Most gave it 4 stars and raved about it ...... except this guy. Have to wonder what he was smoking.

"I read these reviews and bought a tin with high expectations. I smoke McClelland and McCranie's almost exclusively, and find many of their VA offerings to be sublime. I smoked several bowls of this and was horrified. It was putrid, difficult to light and keep lit, smelled like a car fire and tasted like I was smoking hay clippings and corn silk soaked in cat piss."

"After leaving the tin open for a total of about 48 hours it smelled EXACTLY like ginger snap cookies, so I was hoping it would get better. Unfortunately, no luck. The nastiest blend I've yet smoked and a huge disappointment."

cpmcdill
02-28-2015, 12:00 AM
I just went there and read the reviews on the 2005. Most gave it 4 stars and raved about it ...... except this guy. Have to wonder what he was smoking.

"I read these reviews and bought a tin with high expectations. I smoke McClelland and McCranie's almost exclusively, and find many of their VA offerings to be sublime. I smoked several bowls of this and was horrified. It was putrid, difficult to light and keep lit, smelled like a car fire and tasted like I was smoking hay clippings and corn silk soaked in cat piss."

"After leaving the tin open for a total of about 48 hours it smelled EXACTLY like ginger snap cookies, so I was hoping it would get better. Unfortunately, no luck. The nastiest blend I've yet smoked and a huge disappointment."

I've read, and personally experienced, that matching the right pipe to the tobacco can make all the difference. It's possible that this guy was smoking some pipes that were way overdue for a reaming/cleaning. Admittedly hay clippings and cornsilk could be rationalized as a normal flavor for Virginias, and cat piss might be an interpretation of the ammonia smell that sometimes comes from improperly cured tobaccos, but McClelland has a good rep and wouldn't sell something reeking of ammonia. I'd say the reviewer is goofy and pretends to more experience of tobaccos and pipes than he actually has.

Branzig
02-28-2015, 12:11 AM
I say smoke it and YOU tell us what you think! :pipe:

LandonColby
02-28-2015, 01:18 AM
I have a rotation that I'm still getting going, but I'm buying several tins per yer and saving at least one to smoke in 5 years. Short answer...they should have at least 5 years IMO. But anything more is just a bonus. I say smoke whatever has at least 5 years

mooster
02-28-2015, 02:25 AM
I say smoke it and YOU tell us what you think! :pipe:

That sounds like the best course of action!

I've had maybe eight different years, as far back as 2000. They're all similar to a point (all are McClelland virginias, so obviously there are a lot of similarities) but there are subtle differences. I personally don't touch 'em until they've had six years in the tin at least. Maybe it's just me, but I find McClelland tobaccos to be somewhat bitey when they're young. Plus, the odd smell (worcestershire sauce to me) weakens over time. All the years I've had have been very nice aged virginias, but nothing that can compete with my favorites. I like them in general, but I wouldn't spend what some are asking for the older tins. If I'm going to buy an old McClelland tins, I'd rather have No. 27 or Virginia Woods. The basic problem with Christmas Cheer is this: whether by design or chance, it's the perfect tobacco collectable: a new one each year; collect them all! Frankly, I feel that this drives the price of older tins far more than the contents. But that doesn't affect the ones you buy new and age yourself!