Cigars on EBay

[Billb1960]

Up until a few weeks back I didn't know that one could buy cigars on EBay. I actually didn't believe it until I saw the auctions myself. I think it's hilarious that EBay lets sellers get away with such a transparent ruse. So who's done it?

[Cigars4Troops]

Gougers and flippers. The band is collectible yo!

[Engineer99]

No. Just no. Tobacco is verboten there and auctions are for the "collectible packaging" only, which just might be all you get. Or you might get fakes, or dried out fakes, or who the hell knows...

There are lots of places and ways to get legit stuff, and I would not gamble my way too hard earned money on an unknown quantity. Maybe the trader feedback is good, but still....

[jp1979]

yeah, i wouldnt buy a box of sealed bands on ebay, you have ZERO recourse

[OnePyroTec]

I used to purchase any glasstop cohiba box variant that I didn't have. At one time I had a dozen different boxes. I still have a few of the better ones.

[Billb1960]

After some of the ridiculous prices I've seen some of the HTF sticks go for on CBid I guess it shouldn't surprise me that people will buy them as "collectibles" on EBay.

[Jaybird]

$7800.00 for a box of padron? WHAT???

HOLY CRAP! I hope he gets it!

Cheers
Jay

[Schatzman]

$7800.00 for a box of padron? WHAT???

HOLY CRAP! I hope he gets it!

Cheers
Jay

The sad part is, he isn't far off from what that is worth. I've seen another locally asking a similar price.

[jpalamar]

I sold some OpusX A coffins on eBay. Paid $30 each and sold for over $75 each.

[Browns7213]

The fact that Fleabay turns a blind eye to their own standing policy for the purposes of profits really disgusts me. SRS. My favorite is the guy selling the Tatuaje coffin with one each of the halloween releases for $1,000.

[projectsunfire]

The fact that Fleabay turns a blind eye to their own standing policy for the purposes of profits really disgusts me. SRS. My favorite is the guy selling the Tatuaje coffin with one each of the halloween releases for $1,000.

I saw someone selling 6 EMPTY Tat Monster dress boxes for $1600. insane if someone actually bought it

[wabashcr]

Nope. As others have said, plenty of other places to safely and legitimately buy secondary market cigars. Never.

[ChiefIlliniwek]

Not a friggin chance. Ebay and craigslist are two places I won't buy cigars. You just don't know what they are, what you're getting, or what kind of shape they're in.

[youngcigar]

I have had some good luck with getting some decent deals on cigars off ebay. my .02. For sure have to check everything out first though.

[Mr Jones]

yeah, i wouldnt buy a box of sealed bands on ebay, you have ZERO recourse

Not true, the collectability of the cigar packaging or any item for that matter is greatly impacted of everything is not intact/sealed. If you buy something that is sold as intact/sealed and it is not ebay will refund it.

[jp1979]

Not true, the collectability of the cigar packaging or any item for that matter is greatly impacted of everything is not intact/sealed. If you buy something that is sold as intact/sealed and it is not ebay will refund it.

You can buy a sealer for 30 bucks. You will not be able to dispute missing cigars, you bought the PACKAGING and they will shut down your pay pal for using it to pay for tobacco products. You want to buy them fine, not going to happen for this guy.

[Mr Jones]

You can buy a sealer for 30 bucks. You will not be able to dispute missing cigars, you bought the PACKAGING.

You absaultly will if it was advertised as intact. Collectors buy packing off eBay all the time from a sorts of items. If it is advertised as sealed, or intact or new it's an easy dispute. FYI in the collector world sealed does not equal resealed there is a legal diffrence.

[jp1979]

If I sold you a sealed empty box of cigars for $400. You will not win the paypal dispute because the COLLECTIBLE PACKAGING that you paid for was as described. When paypal asks me why there were no cigars in the box, I say what cigars? I sold him the box and the bands that's all that was listed in description. Justin wins, case closed.

*Plus, your intact argument is flawed because you would have had to open it to check.

[Mr Jones]

Of course if you put in the auction description an empty resealed box then tour right and there's nothing to resolve. However if you put new sealed box on the description like many do and everything is not intact then that is an obvious case of fraud, and will be resolved easily.

The tobacco ebay policy exist for selling tobacco as a way they can get the fee and get around people not having tobacco licensees. In your example it wouldn't even apply because your not selling tobacco. Try to understand that although your selling the packing if you advertise it as intact or new it has to be so or it is fraud.

[jp1979]

Of course if you put in the auction description an empty resealed box then tour right and there's nothing to resolve. However if you put new sealed box on the description like many do and everything is not intact then that is an obvious case of fraud, and will be resolved easily.

The tobacco ebay policy exist for selling tobacco as a way they can get the fee and get around people not having tobacco licensees. In your example it wouldn't even apply because your not selling tobacco. Try to understand that although your selling the packing if you advertise it as intact or new it has to be so or it is fraud.

I whole heartedly disagree, the way that 90% of them are listed you will have no recourse. What if the cigars are all dried out and unsmokable? Again zero recourse because you didn't buy cigars you bought the packaging.... By all means, buy all the cigars on ebay you want, I will be waiting for your thread "How I got F*@&ED on Ebay". I have bought and sold many things on ebay, have been through plenty of disputes, won some and lost some.

[DLtoker]

eBay is a nightmare when it comes to disputes. One can dispute anything and 9/10 times the dispute favors the party whom initiated even when there is no evidence. He said, she said. It's asinine.

[jp1979]

eBay is a nightmare when it comes to disputes. One can dispute anything and 9/10 times the dispute favors the party whom initiated even when there is no evidence. He said, she said. It's asinine.

As a seller you need to be super clear and concise on your descriptions or very crafty so you won't lose any disputes. I haven't lost any as a seller, but have lost them as a buyer because of wording in the descriptions, what I perceived it to say vs what it actually said.

[Mr Jones]

I don't think we will convince each other, but i will agree it would be a Hassel and there's better places to buy cigars.

[DLtoker]

True, verbiage is everything on eBay. Regardless, pain in the butt.

[droy1958]

True, verbiage is everything on eBay. Regardless, pain in the butt.

Yeppers.....I have around 15k transactions on the site. Just be honest and all is good.....

[Billb1960]

I'm certainly not touting EBay as a place to buy cigars, I was just amazed that it could be done. It's so obvious that what is being sold is cigars yet EBay is willing to turn a blind eye as long as they get their cut of the proceeds.

[Entropydave]

I just bought 4 Florida Queens (c. 1946) from Gotham museum. They are such smooth wonderful smokes that I really don't want anyof you louts buying them. Cost me $40 and they are such a treat!

[no1uknow]

I have bought cigars off there with no issues. I do not buy from anyone without some history and dang near 100% positive feedback. Occasionally you will find some good deals but mostly it is price gougers. I would prefer to buy from a brother on a forum or that I have a friendship with but temptation has lead me to buy there a few times.

[droy1958]

I just bought 4 Florida Queens (c. 1946) from Gotham museum. They are such smooth wonderful smokes that I really don't want anyof you louts buying them. Cost me $40 and they are such a treat!

I ASSume a lout is a good thing?.....

[Branzig]

As a seller you need to be super clear and concise on your descriptions or very crafty so you won't lose any disputes. I haven't lost any as a seller, but have lost them as a buyer because of wording in the descriptions, what I perceived it to say vs what it actually said.

I use ebay more than I should. It isn't for the novice or for the brash.

If there is one place you can get yourself in real trouble, it is eBay. Whether it be buying something you thought was something else, or getting caught up in a bidding war...eBay is the true blue wild west for consumers. Buy at your own risk.

With that being said, I would never bid on cigars on eBay. That is trouble IMO.

[Coasty]

If you are going bid on cigars, play it safe and stick with the three major tobacco players most of us know. I have never had a problem with any of them. If I win a product that is not what I expected, they all have always honored my request for an exchange or credit.