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jrfoxx
05-05-2023, 11:03 AM
So, my small, 50ct wooden humidor is holding at 58% even with 2, 60gr 69% Bovedas and 20 cigars. It was reading the same rh with 65% Bovedas too.

Should I bother going up to a 72% Boveda, or just chalk it up as having too poor a seal and will end up replacing Bovedas frequently and switching back to tupperdors as much as I prefer the look of wood?

In the end, I'll do what's best for the cigars and ignore my preference for wood.

I friggin love cigars

Tombstone
05-05-2023, 11:14 AM
Depends. Is this a new humidor? It will take some time to saturate the wood with moisture. Have you done a flash light or paper test to check the seal?

Regiampiero
05-05-2023, 11:17 AM
If it's a new humidor, did you season it? Does it have a good seal when you drop the lid?

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jrfoxx
05-05-2023, 11:18 AM
Its an old cheap Quality Imports 50ct I bought off Amazon and used until I learned about tupperdors. It was sitting unused for a couple years.

The wood was definitely well seasoned to the point the wood could hold no more moisture.

Just did the light test and didn't see the tiniest bit in a pitch black environment.

It fails the paper test

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Regiampiero
05-05-2023, 11:21 AM
It an old cheap Quality Imports 50ct I bought of Amazon and used until I learned about tupperdors. It was sitting unused for a couple years.

The wood was definitely well seasoned to the point the wood could hold no more moisture.

Just did the light test and didn't see the tiniest bit in a pitch black environment.

It fails the paper test

I friggin love cigarsIf it fails the paper test, then I'm sure it fails the lid drop test. Sounds like a bad seal, try wiping the seal with a wet (not soaking though, just moist) sponge or towel and let it sit a couple of days and see if it's any better.

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jrfoxx
05-05-2023, 11:26 AM
If it fails the paper test, then I'm sure it fails the lid drop test. Sounds like a bad seal, try wiping the seal with a wet (not soaking though, just moist) sponge or towel and let it sit a couple of days and see if it's any better.

Sent from my SM-S918U using TapatalkI suspect that would work temporarily, as when I first seasoned it, you could definitely feel it sealing when closing the lid.

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AlanS
05-05-2023, 11:27 AM
So, my small, 50ct wooden humidor is holding at 58% even with 2, 60gr 69% Bovedas and 20 cigars. It was reading the same rh with 65% Bovedas too.

Should I bother going up to a 72% Boveda, or just chalk it up as having too poor a seal and will end up replacing Bovedas frequently and switching back to tupperdors as much as I prefer the look of wood?

In the end, I'll do what's best for the cigars and ignore my preference for wood.

I friggin love cigars

How do they burn? Too much humidity is not good, don’t over react to smallfluxuations. Too much humidity hatches beetles in them cigars


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jrfoxx
05-05-2023, 11:29 AM
How do they burn? Too much humidity is not good, don’t over react to smallfluxuations. Too much humidity hatches beetles in them cigars


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkThey do smoke just fine, but the rh dropped very gradually, so the rh of the cigars may not have really changed yet. I'm just concerned with them getting too dry and cracking while handling or smoking.

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Regiampiero
05-05-2023, 11:29 AM
How do they burn? Too much humidity is not good, don’t over react to smallfluxuations. Too much humidity hatches beetles in them cigars


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkYou know, I didn't even consider it may be a bad hygrometer. If they burn right and taste good, don't worry too much.

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jrfoxx
05-05-2023, 11:36 AM
You know, I didn't even consider it may be a bad hygrometer. If they burn right and taste good, don't worry too much.

Sent from my SM-S918U using TapatalkThe hygrometer was calibrated only a couple months ago, so it should be good to go.

Good point, if they are burning and tasting fine, I'm just being a bit of a worry wart.

Just got used to tupperdors and constant, exact rh in them.

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AlanS
05-05-2023, 11:40 AM
The hygrometer was calibrated only a couple months ago, so it should be good to go.

Good point, if they are burning and tasting fine, I'm just being a bit of a worry wart.

Just got used to tupperdors and constant, exact rh in them.

I friggin love cigars

What are you using for a hygrometer? Analog or digital?


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jrfoxx
05-05-2023, 11:51 AM
What are you using for a hygrometer? Analog or digital?


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AlanS
05-05-2023, 11:59 AM
I keep my wooden humidors in side my plastic tubs it slows down the fluxuations.


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jrfoxx
05-05-2023, 12:12 PM
I keep my wooden humidors in side my plastic tubs it slows down the fluxuations.


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkThat's an interesting idea. Both of mine are way too big for any of my tupperdors.

If the humidor rh continues dropping until its basically the rh of my room, I'll just give it to a former Army WAC here who mentioned she needed something nice to keep her jewelry in, and go back to my reliable tupperdors.

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Ljutic
05-05-2023, 03:50 PM
I'm not sure people realize how long it takes to season a dry wood humidor using passive humidity sources like Boveda. Even Boveda suggests 14 days with their 84% packs for seasoning a dry box before adding your smokes. When I brought my desktop out of storage, I gave it 3 weeks with the 3/8" cedar liner.

Here's a current example. This cooler holds 9 sealed Sistema boxes and an open tub of tubos. I added a large dry cedar singles tray to the cooler with a large Xikar Crystals jar that's capable of pumping out 85% humidity back on April 17. Notice how long it's taken to bring the sealed cooler back up to 70% RH (today May 5th) with the dry singles tray sponging up the humidity. The cedar in this singles tray is maybe half that of the total cubic inches in the liner of a 100 count humidor if the lid is also cedar lined. It takes a long time to passively humidify dry cedar. It also takes a long time to dehumidify seasoned cedar and that's what makes it so awesome for cigar storage.

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jrfoxx
05-05-2023, 04:01 PM
Yeah, mine read 85% for the first week after seasoning, and I added cigars when it got to 70% which took another couple weeks.

In the end, I think it's just too poor of a seal to hold any reasonable rh, so I emptied the contents into my big humidor which is holding nicely at around 64%, and you can feel th wood rubbing when yo close the lid.

Gave the small one to our former Army WAC for her jewelry.

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Tombstone
05-05-2023, 06:32 PM
The day you get to the point you can just judge your cigars by look and feel it will be magical. I get people worry about ruining their cigars bur I feel like over time you dont sweat the small things and just enjoy them. Sounds like you did your due diligence. If you are more comfortable with a tuperdor then go that way. Cigars should be a point of enjoyment not stress.

josh lucky 13
05-05-2023, 07:50 PM
Some humidor have a thin bottom and can lose humidity there. Also the more stuff in the humidor can mitigate large swings.

jrfoxx
05-06-2023, 11:35 AM
The day you get to the point you can just judge your cigars by look and feel it will be magical. I get people worry about ruining their cigars bur I feel like over time you dont sweat the small things and just enjoy them. Sounds like you did your due diligence. If you are more comfortable with a tuperdor then go that way. Cigars should be a point of enjoyment not stress.Words of wisdom there.

I try not to sweat anything too much as long as they smoke good, but I have a lit of money tied up in my cigars, so I do worry even though I shouldn't.

As much as I love the look of wood, tupperdors are just too perfectly sealing and hold steady rh and require no monitoring, and thus are worry free, so just going to go back to tupperdors so I dont have anything to worry about.

Appreciate everyone's input. In the end, it was a cheap humidor that just doesn't seal well enough to bother with.

Gave it to my friend who was the last of the Army WAC's since she mentioned needing something for her jewelry. It will work better for that.

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