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jrfoxx
03-09-2023, 12:15 PM
Anyone ever have a Sistema brand tupperdor somehow fail and not hold rh, or have any ideas what could cause this?
The seal looks fine, lid is seated properly and clips work with normal effort (unlike being very had to close if the lid is seated improperly).
I have only 4 cigars in the smaller size tupperdor, and with 2, 60gr, 65% Bovedas it reads 55% with a just verified Boveda Butler, and with a 320gr 65% Boveda it reads 57%.
Even if it had a small leak, a 320gr Boveda in a container it barely fits in, should read higher than that with only 3 cigars.
Have even gone so far as swapping out the Sistema and Boveda, and it still only reads 57%.
I'm at a complete loss...
Any ideas?
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WNYTONY
03-10-2023, 01:35 AM
A lot of guys use those, in fact they usually buy the cedar lined trays as they fit in there perfectly - 2 stacked. Sounds like you need more cigars in there to hold the humidity up where it belongs
TreySC
03-10-2023, 09:08 AM
I agree with Tony you need more cigars or something in there to take up space. But as a test throw the Butler and a boveda pack in a zip lock bag with as much air pushed out as possible for a day or so and see what it reads.
jrfoxx
03-10-2023, 09:41 AM
I agree with Tony you need more cigars or something in there to take up space. But as a test throw the Butler and a boveda pack in a zip lock bag with as much air pushed out as possible for a day or so and see what it reads.I do have some cedar blocks and unused dividers I could throw in, and move some more cigars in too.
The only reason there's only 3 cigars in their is that its 2 EL Montecristos I was givin that are slated for a special occasion, likely 1 for my upcoming birthday the 19th, another for my 50th birthday, and a BHK56 that I've been saving for 3 years to smoke on what would have been my son's 18th birthday this May 25th if he were alive..
Thanks guys
I did just test the Butler a couple days ago with a 320gr, 65% Boveda in a bag it barely fit , with the butler next to it and almost every bit of air sucked out for 24hrs, and by 12hrs it was already reading 65% and stayed there the next 12 hrs.
Question, should the cedar go in dry or slightly dampened/seasoned?
Or should I just skip it if I get the total to 11 cigars? It's the smaller, half sized tupperdor, not their biggest one.
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AlanS
03-10-2023, 12:12 PM
Bubble wrap fills empty space nicely too!
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Brimy
03-10-2023, 03:59 PM
I would think to season the cedar or they are going to dry out the boveda & cigars.
jrfoxx
03-10-2023, 04:05 PM
I would think to season the cedar or they are going to dry out the boveda & cigars.Yeah, that occurred to me after I posted. Dumb question, sorry
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Brimy
03-10-2023, 04:09 PM
Yeah, that occurred to me after I posted. Dumb question, sorry
I friggin love cigars
Not a dumb question!
josh lucky 13
03-10-2023, 06:58 PM
Another option for only a few cigars put cigars and a boveda in a ziplock bag then that in the tupperdor. The zip lock isn't perfect but then the boveda doesn't have to work at humidifing the whole tupperdor.
jrfoxx
03-10-2023, 07:15 PM
Another option for only a few cigars put cigars and a boveda in a ziplock bag then that in the tupperdor. The zip lock isn't perfect but then the boveda doesn't have to work at humidifing the whole tupperdor.Hadn't thought of that. Good idea.
I took all my dozen cigars in my 2 large Sistemas and put them into small ones, so there's about half the space to humidify, plus some lightly moistened cedar blocks in both and each has a 320gr 65% Boveda and a 60gr 65% one as well, so hopefully that works.
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jrfoxx
03-11-2023, 12:42 PM
So, clearly you guys were correct, the Boveda was not able to keep the container at the proper humidity with 10 cigars or less, even in the small tupperdoors and a 320gr Boveda( which i dont understand why it couldn't keep a completely seal, small even empty, container at 65%)
Had a Don Carlos that had been in a small tupperdoor with only 8 other cigars and the wrapper cracked, peeled and flaked and felt dry, badly, and being a Don Carlos i highly doubt it was anything other than being dry from the Boveda not properly humidifying it properly.
They are now in my daily smokes bin with 40 other cigars.
I'm very seriously looking at getting a Newair 250ct winedor with heating and cooling (the temperature in my room can fluctuate from 65 to 75 degrees), and to have all my tupperdoor cigars in a completely humidity controlled, circulated air/humidity, container, along with 150 assorted others from my boxes in my large, perfectly humidified, boxes tupperdoors so my daily smokes container will be a nice climate controlled, well humidified and air circulated winedor of 250 cigars. That a pretty big amount of daily smokes singles and should last a while, lol
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