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jrfoxx
01-28-2023, 04:41 PM
Padron Naturals vs Maduros for the thousands series?

My vendor i was already ordering from on Monday has the Padron 4000 Natural and 7000 Maduro in stock.

Which would you go with, ignoring length and rg difference?

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chain_gang
01-28-2023, 07:38 PM
Maduro

SoCal gunner
01-28-2023, 10:49 PM
Maduro

Brimy
01-28-2023, 11:13 PM
Maduro

WNYTONY
01-29-2023, 01:01 AM
Padron natural and maduro are all made the same - the only difference is in the sorting after rolling. The darker wrappers are put in maduro boxes and the lighter in natural. That said - they do have a different taste to me and I lean toward natural.

jrfoxx
01-29-2023, 08:43 AM
Padron natural and maduro are all made the same - the only difference is in the sorting after rolling. The darker wrappers are put in maduro boxes and the lighter in natural. That said - they do have a different taste to me and I lean toward natural.Thats extremely interesting. So, not really "true" Maduros then. Wonder how many other makers do this, at least with certain lines?

I have definitely noticed some Maduros having noticably more flavor and darkness to the wrapper color to them than others, which leads me to believe that this may not be a practice isolated to Padron.

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, had it not been for the majority who chimed in for the Maduro, it would have made my decision very simple, even though you do state that the taste is different even not being true Maduros.

For those that recommended the Maduro, assuming you have also had the Natural, how noticeable is the difference? chain_gang SoCal gunner Brimy

Based on WNYTONY's info, I would expect it to be pretty subtle, but noticeable as I discovered the same phenomenon with QDO50's. The darker the wrapper, the richer the flavor was, so i always requested the vendor choose the box with the darkest wrappers, of the boxes the had open already (and somewhat to my surprise, i think they took the time to do so as i always got nice dark wrappers once i started requesting this.)




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chain_gang
01-29-2023, 12:15 PM
Thats extremely interesting. So, not really "true" Maduros then. Wonder how many other makers do this, at least with certain lines?

I have definitely noticed some Maduros having noticably more flavor and darkness to the wrapper color to them than others, which leads me to believe that this may not be a practice isolated to Padron.

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, had it not been for the majority who chimed in for the Maduro, it would have made my decision very simple, even though you do state that the taste is different even not being true Maduros.

For those that recommended the Maduro, assuming you have also had the Natural, how noticeable is the difference? chain_gang SoCal gunner Brimy

Based on WNYTONY's info, I would expect it to be pretty subtle, but noticeable as I discovered the same phenomenon with QDO50's. The darker the wrapper, the richer the flavor was, so i always requested the vendor choose the box with the darkest wrappers, of the boxes the had open already (and somewhat to my surprise, i think they took the time to do so as i always got nice dark wrappers once i started requesting this.)




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From what I remember, it is quite noticable, though I've only had both in the Londres vitola, but would expect the same from all sizes. Highly recommend the Londres.

jrfoxx
01-29-2023, 12:18 PM
From what I remember, it is quite noticable, though I've only had both in the Londres vitola, but would expect the same from all sizes. Highly recommend the Londres.Interesting its so noticable not being made in the typical Maduro fashion.

I have had a couple of the londres, and thought they were excellent. Kinda forgot about them while shopping. May have to do some price comparison now and possibly switch gears.

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Brimy
01-29-2023, 03:00 PM
jrfoxx
I don't recall ever having the natural.

jrfoxx
01-29-2023, 03:06 PM
Well, after checking my budget, i have to save enough money to ship 2 trades, so the 7000 Maduro is out of reach for now, plus i kinda like the rg of the 4000 better anyway, and I'm sure I will love it.

Maybe get a Maduro next month if i find them available. This series doesn't seem to stick around long.

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chain_gang
02-02-2023, 08:04 PM
Well, after checking my budget, i have to save enough money to ship 2 trades, so the 7000 Maduro is out of reach for now, plus i kinda like the rg of the 4000 better anyway, and I'm sure I will love it.

Maybe get a Maduro next month if i find them available. This series doesn't seem to stick around long.

Sent from my SM-G930V using TapatalkI know Emersons always has a good stock of Padron - check out their site. May have to pay VA tax of about 20%, but the good news is a bill is going through to reduce tobacco tax to match around the top 10 lowest states.

jrfoxx
02-03-2023, 08:12 AM
I know Emersons always has a good stock of Padron - check out their site. May have to pay VA tax of about 20%, but the good news is a bill is going through to reduce tobacco tax to match around the top 10 lowest states.Cool, thanks. Never heard of them before. Will check them out

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Tombstone
02-03-2023, 10:24 AM
I would take any Padron 1000 series over their more expensive cigars. I have never been let down by them.

josh lucky 13
02-03-2023, 11:27 AM
About a month ago cigar warehouse in Dallas said they got a big shipment in

jrfoxx
02-03-2023, 11:54 AM
I would take any Padron 1000 series over their more expensive cigars. I have never been let down by them.They definitely seem to be the most popular Padron by far based on availability.

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jrfoxx
02-03-2023, 11:55 AM
About a month ago cigar warehouse in Dallas said they got a big shipment inCool, another vendor I wasn't aware of. Will check them out too.
Thanks

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jrfoxx
02-05-2023, 08:50 AM
Got my 4000 Naturals in yesterday. Cant wait to try one, but I'm trying to be patient and give them at least a weeks rest, even though only 1 cigar I have ever tried rott was not to my liking, but was much improved after 6-9 months in my tupperdor.

Everything else has always been just fine within a week of arriving. I dont think vendors store/ship really high rh cigars like they used to, where they would taste or burn like crap without a few months to acclimate. They all seem to arrive ready to smoke anymore, so not sure why I'm waiting, just an exercise in willpower I guess, lol.

Wrapper is about a medium brown, so curious to see how much darker the Maduros are given their sorting process.

Plan to keep back the money for a fiver next month and just keep checking my usual vendors, plus the new ones i just learned about in this thread, that apparently have high odds of having them in stock if you keep checking.

Also going to hold back 1 Natural to do a back to back (not literally, more like the Natural for my morning smoke, and the Maduro 3hrs later for my pre-lunch smoke) comparison and see how much difference i notice.

I did this with the lighter and then darker wrapper QDO50's a while back and it was interesting, and did definitely notice a difference.

Thanks for all the great info and recommendations guys. As usual, the members came through for me with their extensive experience and knowledge.

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SoCal gunner
02-05-2023, 10:50 AM
Unless stored wet, Padron is one cigar you can smoke rott

jrfoxx
02-05-2023, 12:08 PM
Unless stored wet, Padron is one cigar you can smoke rottHumidimeter leveled out at 71rh, so should unfortunately probably let them sit a week and test again and repeat until its below 70.

71 just seems like there would be burn issues and possibly a sour/bitterness on the finish.

That said, i didn't get the calibrator i asked for for Christmas, and the mfg. Says +/-2%, so i dont know if mine reads high or low. Will hopefully get it for my birthday. If not, I'll just buy one. They are relatively cheap.

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mi000ke
02-13-2023, 05:54 PM
I really love the 4000 naturals. I think they really improve by putting them down for 6-12 months.

jrfoxx
02-14-2023, 04:35 PM
I really love the 4000 naturals. I think they really improve by putting them down for 6-12 months.I'll agree that they are excellent smokes, even fairly fresh off the truck. Will test my willpower and try and let the others sit at least 6 months like you suggest.

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