Dry, cracked wrappers

[jrfoxx]

Anyone have any ideas on why every so often i pull a Cigar out to smoke that has been in my humidor at 68 degrees and 65% rh for months and just from normal handling and cutting, the wrapper cracks in multiple places and seems very dry?

I'm stumped.

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[AlanS]

The ones from Cuba are better at 62%, nc’s at 65%. Ideal temp is 70 so if you’re rh is 65% at 68 degrees they may be holding at a higher %. Rumor has it there is a tool to check the humidity of individual smokes…


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[droy1958]

Mine stay at 62. No issues, and it's been months since I had one.

[chain_gang]

Maybe poor quality and/or thin wrappers. Happens to me every now and again, but isn't anywhere near common. If it was common, then I'd be looking at my humidor.

[Old Smokey]

Mine stay at 62. No issues, and it's been months since I had one.

It's great to see you post David. Need a light for one day f those cigars?

[Tombstone]

If the insides of the cigar are a lot moister than the wrapper the heat will cause the cigar to swell and crack the wrapper. If there air is very dry that can cause a similar effect. Like others said some wrappers are just delicate. I have noticed in the last 6 months or so that the quality of some brands seems to be going down hill. The wrappers on the Ave Maria I have been getting are shit compared to a year ago. You could try if you notice a specific brand or wrapper doing this you could try dry boxing it a day before smoking.

[Nature]

If the insides of the cigar are a lot moister than the wrapper the heat will cause the cigar to swell and crack the wrapper. If there air is very dry that can cause a similar effect. Like others said some wrappers are just delicate. I have noticed in the last 6 months or so that the quality of some brands seems to be going down hill. The wrappers on the Ave Maria I have been getting are shit compared to a year ago. You could try if you notice a specific brand or wrapper doing this you could try dry boxing it a day before smoking.
Tombstone pretty much summed it up!
I wonder if the quality decline has something to do with C19. Either delays in shipping, or challenges with rollers at the factories.


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[WNYTONY]

Tombstone pretty much summed it up!
I wonder if the quality decline has something to do with C19. Either delays in shipping, or challenges with rollers at the factories.


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I have heard reports (Cigar Authority podcast) saying to expect quality to suffer as they rush to get cigars to market to catch up from the Covid shut downs. And one report said to be very careful as we may see the return of beetles as some cut the freeze times before shipping.

[jrfoxx]

The ones from Cuba are better at 62%, nc’s at 65%. Ideal temp is 70 so if you’re rh is 65% at 68 degrees they may be holding at a higher %. Rumor has it there is a tool to check the humidity of individual smokes…


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkI used to keep all my cc's at 62% but had this problem with wrappers more frequently so I went to 65% and have had noticeably fewer issues. Also Habanos S.A. actually reccomends 65 to 70% for cc's, as does Bovada. Both being sources i would find trustworthy and accurate.

Its only happening with maybe 1 in 20 or so, so not really very common.

I have always assumed that there was a tool to check individual Cigars humidity level, but have never looked into it.

May do some googling on it today

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[jrfoxx]

Maybe poor quality and/or thin wrappers. Happens to me every now and again, but isn't anywhere near common. If it was common, then I'd be looking at my humidor.Yeah, I'm talking like 1 in 20 at most, so not common which seems to eliminate any issues with my storage or handling

I haven't noticed any pattern, but honestly since it happens so infrequently I haven't paid much attention to it being a specific brand or wrapper type.

I will start noting this from now on though
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[jrfoxx]

If the insides of the cigar are a lot moister than the wrapper the heat will cause the cigar to swell and crack the wrapper. If there air is very dry that can cause a similar effect. Like others said some wrappers are just delicate. I have noticed in the last 6 months or so that the quality of some brands seems to be going down hill. The wrappers on the Ave Maria I have been getting are shit compared to a year ago. You could try if you notice a specific brand or wrapper doing this you could try dry boxing it a day before smoking.The problem is happening while in the humidor or from normal, gentle handling.
They rarely seem to crack more while smoking, so I can't see rh being the cause

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[Tombstone]

The problem is happening while in the humidor or from normal, gentle handling.
They rarely seem to crack more while smoking, so I can't see rh being the cause

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I had made some assumptions from that first post and did not realize it was happening in the humidor. Tell us about your humidor. Is it wood box, wineador, tupperdore. How full do you keep it. What kind of humidification device do you use. Do you rotate your cigars in the humidor. A lower temp would not hurt. You only need the temp high enough to hold your preferred RH. Hot and humid will age cigars while a lower temp will slow down the process. I will have to check when I get home but I think I have some cigars that look rough from just sitting in the humidor. They tended to be in a humidor that was overall warmer and more humid. Then I have some in an identical humidor that tended to be stored in a cooler, drier humidor and that are older and look less rough.

[jrfoxx]

I had made some assumptions from that first post and did not realize it was happening in the humidor. Tell us about your humidor. Is it wood box, wineador, tupperdore. How full do you keep it. What kind of humidification device do you use. Do you rotate your cigars in the humidor. A lower temp would not hurt. You only need the temp high enough to hold your preferred RH. Hot and humid will age cigars while a lower temp will slow down the process. I will have to check when I get home but I think I have some cigars that look rough from just sitting in the humidor. They tended to be in a humidor that was overall warmer and more humid. Then I have some in an identical humidor that tended to be stored in a cooler, drier humidor and that are older and look less rough.

Most of them are from my one remaining wooden humidor, but it has happened with ones in tupperdoors too.

It typically sits at about 75% full.

I use boveda packs for humidification

I don't intentionally rotate the Cigars, but it happens once a month when I am digging around for my 30 Cigars for the month to go to the tray.

Temp is stable year round at about 68 degrees, and is consistently at 65% rh.

I plan to start making note of what the wrapper is on any it happens to to see if there is a pattern.

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[droy1958]

I used to keep all my cc's at 62% but had this problem with wrappers more frequently so I went to 65% and have had noticeably fewer issues. Also Habanos S.A. actually reccomends 65 to 70% for cc's, as does Bovada. Both being sources i would find trustworthy and accurate.

Its only happening with maybe 1 in 20 or so, so not really very common.

I have always assumed that there was a tool to check individual Cigars humidity level, but have never looked into it.

May do some googling on it today

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One would think RH is Rh, but how many times have you heard this RH is great for me, but not for thee. One of those caboose scratchers.

Forgot to say that I used to have some problems like that until I got a YETI cooler. The price is higher than giraffe pu$$.....Errrrrr lovin, but how much do you have in smokes.....just sayin'.

[SoCal gunner]

One would think RH is Rh, but how many times have you heard this RH is great for me, but not for thee. One of those caboose scratchers.

Forgot to say that I used to have some problems like that until I got a YETI cooler. The price is higher than giraffe pu$$.....Errrrrr lovin, but how much do you have in smokes.....just sayin'.Are you saying giraffe pu$$ is....

"Out of reach" ? [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

[Old Smokey]

Are you saying giraffe pu$$ is....

"Out of reach" ? [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

This made me wonder what the Rh is in a giraffe pu$$. And would it crack a wrapper? :)

[AlanS]

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