Impromptu Cigars

[Old Smokey]

Did anyone here get any of these cigars from SmallBatch today? They went on sale at 1pm pacific time today and I was all cocked and loaded to pounce. At exactly 1pm I quickly put a 4pk in my cart, went to enter to pay and they were all sold out. In less than 1 minute? Geesh, I must be getting really old.

Did anyone do better than I did?

[Billb1960]

http://www.cigarbum.com/forum/showthread.php?1079-Impromptu

[Horseshoe]

Nope. I was going to buy a couple but no dice. Sold out. Maybe next time if there is a next time.

[Browns7213]

Recieved the e-mail and had no idea what it was in reference to? I thought it was an impromptu cigar sale, had no clue there was a brand by that name.

[AlanS]

Wham bam thank you mam! Gone with the wind. Six minutes just gone maybe next time.

[Ropey]

ehhh...

“These cigars are a limited production of very well aged cigars that Caldwell found while traveling through the Dominican Republic. I found them fascinating and we decided to share them with you. There is a very small quantity of them so enjoy them while they’re around.”

"Fascinating" is an interesting term for a cigar. Could mean anything. Sounds like they found them in the back of some farmer's shed or something.

The other descriptors in the links above such as "cedar," "leather," "toast" and "pepper" are indicative (to me) of the harsh, dry Nicaraguan sticks I tend to avoid. Eg., Padrons. Perhaps these are lighter and not as overpowering, though. Would be interested to read some reviews.

[crgcpro]

440

You have to be quick on the draw!

[Billb1960]

Managed to scoop up a pack of Cream Machines on Smallbatch last night.

[Billb1960]

ehhh...

“These cigars are a limited production of very well aged cigars that Caldwell found while traveling through the Dominican Republic. I found them fascinating and we decided to share them with you. There is a very small quantity of them so enjoy them while they’re around.”

"Fascinating" is an interesting term for a cigar. Could mean anything. Sounds like they found them in the back of some farmer's shed or something.

The other descriptors in the links above such as "cedar," "leather," "toast" and "pepper" are indicative (to me) of the harsh, dry Nicaraguan sticks I tend to avoid. Eg., Padrons. Perhaps these are lighter and not as overpowering, though. Would be interested to read some reviews.

I've only had Caldwell JV sticks so far but if they're any indication then I have high expectations for these.

[mgcrunch]

Awesome to all the dudes that managed to pick up!

Didn't quite get the price justification on this. Just rare tobacco/cigars that Caldwell et. al. orchestrated the sale of?? Not a big Caldwell guy, didn't bother to hunt.

[Jolly_WhiteGiant]

I've only had Caldwell JV sticks so far but if they're any indication then I have high expectations for these.

Make sure to note these are not Caldwell cigars. They were found by him in other factories and could be any brand.

[AlanS]

It will be nice to see some reviews, give them a little rest if you can then lets hear more. Enjoy

[Billb1960]

Make sure to note these are not Caldwell cigars. They were found by him in other factories and could be any brand.

Yeah. Thanks.

[Demuths1770]

I've only had Caldwell JV sticks so far but if they're any indication then I have high expectations for these.

they are left overs from high end limited productions cigars. if a comapany rolled 200,000 for a limited run of 150,000 the 50,000 set around an aged and than cadwell "found them in his travels" and is just labeling them and selling them as well aged high end cigars at a more afortable price.

[Ropey]

they are left overs from high end limited productions cigars.Where did you see this?

[Aithos]

My understanding isn't that they are high end limited production cigars, they are just obscure and unknown cigars from random places produced by a boutique or as a "small" batch house blend. That makes them hard to get unless you travel in the cigar making countries, so this guy is "finding" them for someone he is acquainted with to sell. No doubt these are all more or less dirt cheap customs that they sell for an absurd premium to people that are likely to buy things that are HTF. Pretty brilliant idea if you have the reputation to pull it off. With that being said I'm sure they are decent smokes and the prices I've seen weren't crazy, so if you enjoy it...knock yourself out.

ps: when I said absurd premium I mean relative to the cost, not that the cigars were crazy prices.

[Ropey]

No doubt these are all more or less dirt cheap customs that they sell for an absurd premium to people that are likely to buy things that are HTF. This is more along the lines of what I would guess they are.

[Billb1960]

Robert Caldwell on Impromptu cigars:

"February 20 2015 – Miami,FL
I wanted to take the time to explain Bellatto/Caldwell/Sears (Formally Impromptu). A lot of people don’t quite understand what it is, how it works, or its’ purpose. We explained it a year ago, but no one was listening then.
For years I had been travelling all over the world and brought back really cool cigars. I would always return and share them with Jaclyn and Tony and a five minute conversation about wishing we could do something with them always ensued. I have always gotten a kick out of chasing down old blends I loved, or exploring great manufacturers aging rooms and finding gems. Tony and Jaclyn pushed me to turn this into a project. Find great lost cigars. Package them. Share them with friends. This is BCS.
Last year we came to market together with this concept. It was and is Tony’s project. He decides who gets it and who does not. He runs point on the whole deal. I find the cigars and come up with the concepts. Jaclyn does the artistic side of the project. We love this project because it does not matter. It is fun. It is carefree. It is what cigars should be. It allows us to bring in really special cigars and share them with true friends. It allows me to push myself creatively. It allows me to work with friends.
BCS is not a Caldwell project. It is not a Caldwell brand. It is not even a brand. It is a concept. We do not manufacture the cigars. They are something Lost and then Found. We go after cigars that were very special when they were on the shelves and breathe new life into them. It is a chance to bring in one-off cigars that have been aged to perfection and share them with true connoisseurs. Some quantities have been as low as 100 cigars. It is the coolest thing to ever happen a second time to a great cigar.
Tony is limiting the retailers to 20. They are very hard to sell at brick and mortar retail. They come wrapped up in simple paper with catchy names and designs. He wants to keep them mainly off of store shelves. His target is online boutique, as well as social media forums and trade groups. This is where the brand is understood. He wants to keep it small and fun.
He has renamed the brand twice. 3rd time is a charm. It is called Lost&Found. Just look for the parachute.
It is an uber cool project. Tony’s contact info is [email protected]
Robert Caldwell"

[Demuths1770]

Robert Caldwell on Impromptu cigars:

"February 20 2015 – Miami,FL
I wanted to take the time to explain Bellatto/Caldwell/Sears (Formally Impromptu). A lot of people don’t quite understand what it is, how it works, or its’ purpose. We explained it a year ago, but no one was listening then.
For years I had been travelling all over the world and brought back really cool cigars. I would always return and share them with Jaclyn and Tony and a five minute conversation about wishing we could do something with them always ensued. I have always gotten a kick out of chasing down old blends I loved, or exploring great manufacturers aging rooms and finding gems. Tony and Jaclyn pushed me to turn this into a project. Find great lost cigars. Package them. Share them with friends. This is BCS.
Last year we came to market together with this concept. It was and is Tony’s project. He decides who gets it and who does not. He runs point on the whole deal. I find the cigars and come up with the concepts. Jaclyn does the artistic side of the project. We love this project because it does not matter. It is fun. It is carefree. It is what cigars should be. It allows us to bring in really special cigars and share them with true friends. It allows me to push myself creatively. It allows me to work with friends.
BCS is not a Caldwell project. It is not a Caldwell brand. It is not even a brand. It is a concept. We do not manufacture the cigars. They are something Lost and then Found. We go after cigars that were very special when they were on the shelves and breathe new life into them. It is a chance to bring in one-off cigars that have been aged to perfection and share them with true connoisseurs. Some quantities have been as low as 100 cigars. It is the coolest thing to ever happen a second time to a great cigar.
Tony is limiting the retailers to 20. They are very hard to sell at brick and mortar retail. They come wrapped up in simple paper with catchy names and designs. He wants to keep them mainly off of store shelves. His target is online boutique, as well as social media forums and trade groups. This is where the brand is understood. He wants to keep it small and fun.
He has renamed the brand twice. 3rd time is a charm. It is called Lost&Found. Just look for the parachute.
It is an uber cool project. Tony’s contact info is [email protected]
Robert Caldwell"

from this i take they are left over cigars from runs becasue they where lost now found. they where cigars that where once sold and these are the leftovers they have from them that have been aging. Ropey

[Ropey]

I imagine with all the money they spend traveling, sampling cigars, shipping cigars, etc. -- plus the fact that they sell only "small quantities" when they do find some -- that the markup on those small quantities would have to be enormous to make it a viable business.

They might even be getting those cigars for free, simply for removing them from the "warehouses" in which they find 'em.

Because let's face it, if they're really high-quality cigars that are being stored in manufacturers' warehouses, why wouldn't those just be sold as the normal lines they were intended for? It just doesn't make sense to me.

I don't buy the concept of "lost" cigars, whether it's in the advertising copy of a CI catalog or from these folks. A cigar warehouse is not like someone's attic. There aren't boxes of cigars accidentally left under a collection of old Life magazines.

And even if it were, why would some dude wandering in off the street be able to find these "lost" cigars when the proprietors of the company themselves couldn't? And why would the company then sell these valuable "lost" cigars to some guy when they could sell them through their normal distribution outlets?

Stories about "finding" a big batch of "lost" cigars just seem like BS to me.

[Demuths1770]

if a company states they are gonna make a limited run of xxx,xxx of sticks and rolls over that im sure they keep them stored somewhere. even when a company stops producing a line if they do it right away they have alot of back inventory left. I know of one company that when the discontinue a line they dont even send out the stock they have at the warehouse. its discontinued the day they say and they have stock left over. Some reps where discuss this at a event i was at. that company one time rebanded left over stock and sold it as a limited run since they had age on them. its not even far fetched to think that they may have liked a blend in the beginning and rolled x amount of stick and didnt like them and figured they would stop production and let them rest some and never revisted it and cadwell found them as a "lost" cigar.

[Ropey]

ehhh... hey I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying that it seems like a stretch. To produce too many of something and then just let them sit forever in your warehouse until some random guy walks in and asks to buy them... ?

Doesn't seem like a good business plan.

[Demuths1770]

im sure the rollers and owners and such are dipping into inventory like that to smoke as well. why would you throw away good cigars? on limited runs only so many bands and boxes are mad so what do you do with overstock of the sticks? put it back for smoking stock and maybe another limited release down the road

[no1uknow]

I wanted to try these but honestly I am getting tired of hunting down limited edition gimmick cigars. At first the hunt is fun and if you find some it feels really nice to add them to your collection. But then you watch the same people buy them all up and hoard them and turn around and rip their brothers off by gouging them. I never say anything because if someone is willing to be taken advantage of it is their money to spend how they see fit. It just gets frustrating and I just avoid dealing with those individuals. For those of you that snagged some enjoy. Hope they live up to the hype!

[Tennessee Dave]

Missed out. Anyone smoke one yet?