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rgbeard
07-20-2020, 09:52 PM
Silly Cigar question - but my search efforts didn't find the thread that discusses this.
When you buy a box of cigars, and those 'gars are in individual clear plastic wrap......
Transfer them to the humidor, and keep them in the plastic wrapper?
Transfer them to the humidor, after taking them out of the plastic wrapper?
What's the right thing to do?
AlanS
07-20-2020, 09:58 PM
The cello protects the wrapper leaf, I leave them on it’s helpful when rotating stock to protect them. However the forbidden fruits from the unnamed island never has cello so there’s that
allusred
07-21-2020, 01:59 AM
Silly Cigar question - but my search efforts didn't find the thread that discusses this.
When you buy a box of cigars, and those 'gars are in individual clear plastic wrap......
Transfer them to the humidor, and keep them in the plastic wrapper?
Transfer them to the humidor, after taking them out of the plastic wrapper?
What's the right thing to do?
Either in the cello or nekid Your choice...As AlanS said the cello offers protection should the cigar get moved about.
Going to agree and reiterate with the Smart Bums above!!!
Old Smokey
07-21-2020, 08:19 AM
I agree with all above. Personally I leave mine the way they arrive.
CentralTimeSmoke
07-21-2020, 08:28 AM
I always leave the cello on. I've got tupperdores and things get jostled around quite a bit. Maybe if I had a fancy desktop humidor for my finer smokes, I might think about it.
josh lucky 13
07-21-2020, 10:27 AM
Not silly but whatever you prefer. I leave mine on asit protects the cigar more. When I find a cigar without it they tend to get damaged a bit so I have to smoke it
Sir Lancerolot
07-21-2020, 01:51 PM
Cellophane is porous, so if you're going to keep them a while, your cigars should "breathe" OK. I usually open/cut one end of the cellophane just to be sure.
chain_gang
07-22-2020, 10:00 AM
I keep everything in the cellophane. I don't think there is a right or wrong way with this topic. Like many things involving cigars, it seems to boil down to preference.
Emperor Zurg
07-22-2020, 11:48 AM
I leave the cello on for a couple reasons...
1) I'm lazy. Even if it was better to take them all off, I still wouldn't bother
2) I've taken to dating my cigars to see how long they've been sitting. Don't want to write on the wrapper with sharpie marker.
3) The cello does offer protection - and probably a bit of a buffer for rH swings
CitizenZero
11-17-2020, 12:24 AM
Even going back to my Puff days, this always came down to a matter of personal preference but I’m curious if anyone else notices the unpleasant odor that I do. It doesn’t seem to matter what stick, good/bad, cheap/expensive, I notice a similar acrid smell whenever I take a cigar out of the cello. It’s the one and only reason I remove the plastic and usually let my sticks hang out for about a week before I smoke em.
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Old Smokey
11-17-2020, 08:21 AM
Even going back to my Puff days, this always came down to a matter of personal preference but I’m curious if anyone else notices the unpleasant odor that I do. It doesn’t seem to matter what stick, good/bad, cheap/expensive, I notice a similar acrid smell whenever I take a cigar out of the cello. It’s the one and only reason I remove the plastic and usually let my sticks hang out for about a week before I smoke em.
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I'm curious what it is your smelling. How would you describe it? Tobacco fermentation?
CitizenZero
11-17-2020, 10:14 AM
I'm curious what it is your smelling. How would you describe it? Tobacco fermentation?
I mean.... maybe? When I think tobacco fermentation, my mind usually goes to a sweeter smell kinda like pipe tobacco but maybe that’s it. I want to use the word “sour” but I don’t think that’s quite it.
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Old Smokey
11-17-2020, 12:26 PM
I mean.... maybe? When I think tobacco fermentation, my mind usually goes to a sweeter smell kinda like pipe tobacco but maybe that’s it. I want to use the word “sour” but I don’t think that’s quite it.
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I have always related tobacco fermentation with an ammonia taste of smell. I am about as far from an expert as possible, but it is my understanding cigars go through up to 4 fermentation periods with the first 2 being most prominent. Could this the odor you smell?
CitizenZero
11-17-2020, 12:34 PM
I have always related tobacco fermentation with an ammonia taste of smell. I am about as far from an expert as possible, but it is my understanding cigars go through up to 4 fermentation periods with the first 2 being most prominent. Could this the odor you smell?
Yeah, a light sort of ammonia odor sounds about right.
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allusred
11-17-2020, 01:36 PM
I have always related tobacco fermentation with an ammonia taste of smell. I am about as far from an expert as possible, but it is my understanding cigars go through up to 4 fermentation periods with the first 2 being most prominent. Could this the odor you smell?
Have forgotten about that smell, do remember noticing it. And think it was the fermentation You mention. However seldom sniff the cigar, just cut & smoke.
Mebbbe jes ain't got no time fo dat.
CentralTimeSmoke
11-17-2020, 01:54 PM
Even going back to my Puff days, this always came down to a matter of personal preference but I’m curious if anyone else notices the unpleasant odor that I do. It doesn’t seem to matter what stick, good/bad, cheap/expensive, I notice a similar acrid smell whenever I take a cigar out of the cello. It’s the one and only reason I remove the plastic and usually let my sticks hang out for about a week before I smoke em.
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You're saying it's like this with every cigar you smoke?
CitizenZero
11-17-2020, 02:36 PM
Yeah. Pretty much.
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CentralTimeSmoke
11-17-2020, 04:48 PM
Yeah. Pretty much.
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Hmm. Strange. Cellophane is a natural product made out of cellulose. It does have a bit of a smell to it. It has to be that. There's no way that every cigar you smoke is having fermentation issues. What do you keep your RH at?
Emperor Zurg
11-17-2020, 07:47 PM
Cellophane is a natural product made out of cellulose.
Production:
Cellulose from wood, cotton, hemp, or other sources is dissolved in alkali and carbon disulfide to make a solution called viscose, which is then extruded through a slit into a bath of dilute sulfuric acid and sodium sulfate to reconvert the viscose into cellulose. The film is then passed through several more baths, one to remove sulfur, one to bleach the film, and one to add softening materials such as glycerin to prevent the film from becoming brittle.
Yeah, that sounds pretty 'natural' to me... no wonder the stuff stinks
josh lucky 13
11-18-2020, 12:23 AM
I leave the cello on. It protects the cigar more. I have never noticed anything negative from it.
CentralTimeSmoke
11-18-2020, 10:28 AM
Yeah, that sounds pretty 'natural' to me... no wonder the stuff stinks
Well....it is "natural" by definition, unlike plastics that are artificially created and do not occur in nature. As stated in that description, cellophane is essentially plant material. It's completely compostable, too FYI. I put my wrappers in my compost bin. Just because it goes through some kind of manufacturing process doesn't mean it's not "natural." If you're freaked out by that, don't Google to see what chicken goes through before it hits the supermarket and eventually your plate...
Emperor Zurg
11-18-2020, 05:15 PM
If you're freaked out by that, don't Google to see what chicken goes through before it hits the supermarket and eventually your plate...
I'm not freaked out by it, CitizenZero just said he didn't like the smell of it. It doesn't bother me but I can see why it would stink. I think he should get one of those Gurkha Royal Harlot cigars that are wrapped in gold leaf instead of cello; only way to tell if the smell comes from the cello or something else. Well... maybe if he's feeling cheap, a tubo would answer the question too...
StogBog
11-26-2020, 02:06 PM
I'm not freaked out by it, CitizenZero just said he didn't like the smell of it. It doesn't bother me but I can see why it would stink. I think he should get one of those Gurkha Royal Harlot cigars that are wrapped in gold leaf instead of cello; only way to tell if the smell comes from the cello or something else. Well... maybe if he's feeling cheap, a tubo would answer the question too...
I have always wondered the same when I am looking at cigars in the store. It might be time for a little science experiment where they are compared somehow. Although I do not know a lot about cigars the wrapping has put me off at times.
Old Smokey
11-27-2020, 03:56 PM
I have always wondered the same when I am looking at cigars in the store. It might be time for a little science experiment where they are compared somehow. Although I do not know a lot about cigars the wrapping has put me off at times.
The cello is breathable and IMO is only to protect the wrapper on the cigar. So people leave it on (I do) and others take it off. I don't think it really makes a difference either way. But if you enjoy a science experiment, go for it. Just know it will likely take years and still likely won't show any noticeable difference. Some leave it on so they can write date of purchase (mo/yr) on it.