Help Convert Closet to (small) Walk In Humidor

[SoCal gunner]

Ok, here is the scenario: I have an existing 16’x10’ room that has a closet on one end. The closet measures 68”Wx39”Dx9’H ceiling. The entry to the closet was the overlapping sliding door style (which have been removed) and measures 57”Wx80”H centered. (sketch attached). All walls/ceiling are texture coated and painted drywall. I was previously using this space as an alcove to house my old big screen tv and electronics, so I have a 110v outlet inside along the left wall at midlevel. Existing flooring is a water-resistant wood laminate with vapor barrier on slab.

Construction:
What should I attach to the walls and how? Sources for materials highly appreciated. Directly tack planks of Spanish cedar to the walls? Another product first, then a thin layer of Spanish cedar? Skip the SC for the walls altogether and use it for shelves only? Smaller details like how much spacing for expansion are welcome too (read a suggestion to butt the joints). I’m thinking of using the existing entry way, but having a door/window company come install a sliding door or maybe a couple panels of glass and a swinging door in the center.

Humidification:
I’m in the Southern California desert, so I’m going to need active humidification. The room is tied into the central HVAC unit of the house, with a supply vent on the opposite side of the room from the closet humidor. I have no plans to install a split AC unit in this room – just too small and no where to vent out to or get sufficient power. I welcome feedback/suggestions from all of you.

TL/DR: What do I line my closet with and how do I humidify it?






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[TreySC]

I'm no pro but I think you would want some kind of vapor barrier between the drywall and SC especially since you will be adding humidity to the room.

Just thinking out loud here I wonder if the added humidity would cause damage to an open outlet I'll try to remember to ask next time a good electrician comes in my work, unless someone here knows.

[SoCal gunner]

I'm no pro but I think you would want some kind of vapor barrier between the drywall and SC especially since you will be adding humidity to the room.

Just thinking out loud here I wonder if the added humidity would cause damage to an open outlet I'll try to remember to ask next time a good electrician comes in my work, unless someone here knows.

What do you think: tack up some plastic sheeting (?mils), tape the seams? Just found an old reddit post where they used luan sheeting for the walls to save $$. What do you think would be the best way to hang it? I want to stay away from adhesives due to off-gassing, etc. But every hole is a puncture through the vapor barrier.

Never thought about humidity and the outlet - wonder what B&M shops do?

[Emperor Zurg]

Sheesh dude. Are you a glutton for punishment or what? You narrowly missed the bullet on the last project and now you're looking to tackle another one!

If I was going to do it tho, I'd think 'shower stall'. I bet those sheets like they use in a campground shower woukd block moisture like crazy. I wouldn't use those stupid plastic rivets to hold it up tho. I'd attach it with stainless screws with rubber washers under the heads. You could caulk the edges with siliccone sealant.

[SoCal gunner]

Sheesh dude. Are you a glutton for punishment or what? You narrowly missed the bullet on the last project and now you're looking to tackle another one!

If I was going to do it tho, I'd think 'shower stall'. I bet those sheets like they use in a campground shower woukd block moisture like crazy. I wouldn't use those stupid plastic rivets to hold it up tho. I'd attach it with stainless screws with rubber washers under the heads. You could caulk the edges with siliccone sealant.

Yeah, I keep wondering if the Doctor called my wife and said I was dying or something?

[AlanS]

Put in a good quality gfi outlet with the hinged covers, like exterior grade you’d use for a patio
Think if you lower the ceiling would cut down the amount of humidification required

[Drez]

Might be a good idea to visit any high quality B&M you have in the area and have a discussion with the owner if possible. Ask some advice for construction of humidors on a larger scale. If he is knowledgeable, he may be able to give some advice someone may not think of. I have one person in a discord that has a home built walk in. I'll see if I can get some tips from him next time I see him around.

For one, what type of dry wall is preinstalled in the room? Is it mold resistant? If not, you're really going to have to figure out a good way to completely seal the interior from being able to push too much constant moisture into the drywall localized in there behind everything.
It also depends on what type of shelving you want. I wouldn't really think you need the ENTIRE room made of spanish cedar. You could easily just do shelves made of it. Probably a somewhat easier and cheaper route, also, would be to moisture seal the room with whatever insulation you choose and some moisture proof/resistant paneling for appearance sake. Then do your shelving, and just store in boxes on the shelving systems. You could also get some of the premade shelving made for wine coolers to store singles/bundles or other non-boxed purchases.

The only reason I suggestion this route is the B&M most local to me has their humidor set up this way. All glass sided, and pretty free of spanish cedar - except for the cigar boxes all within. It isn't a large store, nor a large humidor. It may actually be pretty close to the size you've shown dimensions for.Even with some loss, a humidifer of this size should cover such a space, and it - in terms of what you're looking to do - doesn't break the bank.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/AIRCARE-5-Gal-Evaporative-Humidifier-for-4-000-sq-ft-EA1407/205446600

That part is actually probably one of the easiest solutions to what you're looking to do. Also! Be sure to use all weather or marine grade metal in any instances you can. Screws, nails. Coated racks/shelving supports etc. Keeps them from rusting and bleeding into the wood. As for the electric.. I think mostly just have the sockets checked and make sure they are grounded. The humidity is higher, yes..but not so high that I think it will cause a real problem? There are plenty of places that run humidity in the 70+ range on a regular basis parts of the year. Our sockets have no problems with that relative humidity...I'd invest in a pretty good quality surge protector, though, to plug in whatever humidity system you do end up with... I wouldn't completely "seal off" the door. Unless you are going to open it daily to allow some air exchange, you want some fresh air able to circulate in and out. The humidifer should be able to make up for this without any problem caused to the cigars stored.

[TreySC]

What do you think: tack up some plastic sheeting (?mils), tape the seams? Just found an old reddit post where they used luan sheeting for the walls to save $$. What do you think would be the best way to hang it? I want to stay away from adhesives do to off-gassing, etc. But every hole is a puncture through the vapor barrier.

Never thought about humidity and the outlet - wonder what B&M shops do?That's kind of what I was thinking like how you do a floating floor on concrete. You can always paint the walls with flex seal [emoji23]

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[Tombstone]

When I do one I think I would line the walls and ceiling in either tongue and groove boards or there is a similar plywood like product home depot sells. I think it is M11? Not positive the name off the top of my head. Either should hold up to moisture well. I think you should be able to hit the wall with a good sealer like drylock and just nail or screw into the studs. I would think that some of that wire shelving would work fine or if you got skills just make up some nice hardwood shelves. I think you also want somebcirculation fans. Maybe a small dict down low with an inline fan that moves it up to the ceiling and exhausts. Keep the moisture moving and stabilized. Some of the room humidifiers have a humidity sensor and I think that with the air movement would get the job done.

[josh lucky 13]

I think you definitely want a barrier between existing walls and new wood. Don't forget ceiling and floors your not trying to humidify the whole house. Now spanish cedar is great for a humidor but its expensive. Now spanish cedar is in the same family as mahogany but doubt that's any cheaper. Other options are cherry, walnut, maple, oak. IActive humification will have to be used but I would also suggest fans for airflow and maybe other media beads or kitty litter. The more you have in there the better to help hold the humidity.
For the electric I would add an outlet. Same outlets they use in bathroom will work in there. I would want a light on a switch and as I mentioned earlier led stripe lights on the bottom of the shelves to be able to see everything. Etched glass door and maybe consider a small built in in the center with drawers for singles.

[Nature]

Umm, I think someone has been confined at home too long.
What you are describing is not “(small)” for personal use.

How about a freestanding humidor hutch placed in the opening? In your taste of finish, of course.
Save a lot of headaches and you get the instant gratification and use. If you ever move, you can take it with you.

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With that being said, your existing painted drywall will hold moisture fine. No vapor barrier needed for that. The question is if it will resist mold at 70ish % RH, and I think at that level it probably will be OK. Cigars, a natural fermentable product doesn’t support mold until above that.
Not necessary to line with SC. ..$$$ Unless for aesthetic or tradition reasons or for that SC aroma. If desired, you could line it with just about any wood; oak, maple, birch, poplar, pine, etc. Just not aromatic cedar. A thin veneered product would be the most economical and easiest to install. Could also go with ship lapped pine, if that is your style.

Your biggest challenge will be sealing the opening and providing humidification. That size, you may need something along the order of an electronic humidifier with humidity feedback. You already have the power supply in there.

I do like the sliding glass door or French door option, but a little pricey. You could install yourself, but your opening will likely require something custom as it is a bit narrower than the standard. If you go with a slider, it needs to open automatically with a wave of your hand and go “whooosh” like on the Enterprise in Star Trek.

Oh yeah, almost forgot. Lighting, you will need lighting, even if it is plug in led strips or rope lighting. A GFCI is overkill as you won’t be expecting open water.

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[WNYTONY]

My contribution here SoCal gunner is that for Spanish Cedar I have used and recommend a guy on eBay called gym_bob_in_maine
Don't know if he can do some of the large sizes you may needing, but he's a good dude to work with. Message him and tell him what you're looking for and he'll cut it to what you want and work with you on pricing. Not practical for big sheets but great for the smaller stuff for shelves, trays and such.

[jhedrick83]

TJ-

First of all, if you do this, I'm moving to your neighborhood. Vapor barrier for sure, either some 6 mil plastic sheeting or a small roll of Tyvek, whichever is cheaper based on how much you'll need. If you wanted to go full out, you could line the walls with SC or try to find a SC veneered plywood. Are the ceilings 8'? If so, it looks like 4 4x8 sheets of plywood would take care of the walls. I think if you didn't line the walls it would be fine, as big as that is, SC shelving would be awesome. Either way, it would probably smell like heaven.

As for expansion, if you let what you are going to line the walls with/make shelves out of rest in the humidified space for a few days it should acclimate and be fine to just butt the ends as long as the room itself wouldn't have big temp swings on a regular basis.

As for materials, when I turned an old gun cabinet into a humidor (and then did another for a friend) I used Bristol Valley Hardwoods Bristol Valley Hardwoods – Hardwoods & Speciality Wood Products (http://www.bristolvalley.com/) They will even (or did several years ago) cut to size before they ship it.

If you do this, you must post pics. Must. Post. Pics.

[SoCal gunner]

Umm, I think someone has been confined at home too long.
What you are describing is not “(small)” for personal use.

How about a freestanding humidor hutch placed in the opening? In your taste of finish, of course.
Save a lot of headaches and you get the instant gratification and use. If you ever move, you can take it with you.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200522/76eb1447982483d7756ce7e223b45c0b.jpg

With that being said, your existing painted drywall will hold moisture fine. No vapor barrier needed for that. The question is if it will resist mold at 70ish % RH, and I think at that level it probably will be OK. Cigars, a natural fermentable product doesn’t support mold until above that.
Not necessary to line with SC. ..$$$ Unless for aesthetic or tradition reasons or for that SC aroma. If desired, you could line it with just about any wood; oak, maple, birch, poplar, pine, etc. Just not aromatic cedar. A thin veneered product would be the most economical and easiest to install. Could also go with ship lapped pine, if that is your style.

Your biggest challenge will be sealing the opening and providing humidification. That size, you may need something along the order of an electronic humidifier with humidity feedback. You already have the power supply in there.

I do like the sliding glass door or French door option, but a little pricey. You could install yourself, but your opening will likely require something custom as it is a bit narrower than the standard. If you go with a slider, it needs to open automatically with a wave of your hand and go “whooosh” like on the Enterprise in Star Trek.

Oh yeah, almost forgot. Lighting, you will need lighting, even if it is plug in led strips or rope lighting. A GFCI is overkill as you won’t be expecting open water.

Sent from my iPad using TapatalkI meant small as in I probably wont be able to turn around inside with shelving.

My original plan was to do even less than what you showed: I have my grandmother's old cedar chest that I was just going to put in that space and load it with all my tupperdors.

[SoCal gunner]

When I do one I think I would line the walls and ceiling in either tongue and groove boards or there is a similar plywood like product home depot sells. I think it is M11? Not positive the name off the top of my head. Either should hold up to moisture well. I think you should be able to hit the wall with a good sealer like drylock and just nail or screw into the studs. I would think that some of that wire shelving would work fine or if you got skills just make up some nice hardwood shelves. I think you also want somebcirculation fans. Maybe a small dict down low with an inline fan that moves it up to the ceiling and exhausts. Keep the moisture moving and stabilized. Some of the room humidifiers have a humidity sensor and I think that with the air movement would get the job done.Ryan, I'm not seeing a M11 product at home depot. Would love to know what you had in mind.

After reading and watching as much as I could find on what to use for the paneling, I'm leaning towards going with an alternative hardwood to SC for cost. But you GOTTA have that SC smell, right? So maybe spring for SC shelves on closet system type shelving brackets?

[SoCal gunner]

Anyone have a suggestion on splitting up the sheets (assuming 4x8s) ? Aesthetically, I'm thinking cutting them to 4'x68" gives me two horizontal seams on the back and no need to worry about vertical stud placement.

Not sure as a puzzle it makes the most sense/least waste? Especially if I carry it to the sides.

[Tombstone]

Ryan, I'm not seeing a M11 product at home depot. Would love to know what you had in mind.

After reading and watching as much as I could find on what to use for the paneling, I'm leaning towards going with an alternative hardwood to SC for cost. But you GOTTA have that SC smell, right? So maybe spring for SC shelves on closet system type shelving brackets?

I will check with my Dad what its called and take some pictures of projects we did with it. It holds up way better to moisture than normal plyvwood.

[josh lucky 13]

Anyone have a suggestion on splitting up the sheets (assuming 4x8s) ? Aesthetically, I'm thinking cutting them to 4'x68" gives me two horizontal seams on the back and no need to worry about vertical stud placement.

Not sure as a puzzle it makes the most sense/least waste? Especially if I carry it to the sides.

I like the idea of horizontal seems. You can hide those with static shelves that never move. I like the idea of Spanish cedar shelves but you don't have to jump to that off the start. Depends on how fast you want it and what you want it to look like in the end. But if your going this far you want to make it everything you want. Before your wife realizes what she agreed to.

[WNYTONY]

Ryan, I'm not seeing a M11 product at home depot. Would love to know what you had in mind.

After reading and watching as much as I could find on what to use for the paneling, I'm leaning towards going with an alternative hardwood to SC for cost. But you GOTTA have that SC smell, right? So maybe spring for SC shelves on closet system type shelving brackets?

I think Tombstone is thinking of T111 - I used that in my hot tub room and I agree that it holds up well to the moisture.

[Tombstone]

I think Tombstone is thinking of T111 - I used that in my hot tub room and I agree that it holds up well to the moisture.
Yep! Thats the stuff.

[jhedrick83]

I think Tombstone is thinking of T111 - I used that in my hot tub room and I agree that it holds up well to the moisture.

You have an Wineador Apartment Complex and a Hot Tub room and golf all the time?? Tony knows how to live.

[SoCal gunner]

I've been reading and watching everything I can find on the interwebs on this topic.

So with an aggregate of ideas, I'm leaning towards putting up a vapor barrier over the existing painted drywall and using 1/4" SC plywood for the walls. I always assumed vapor barrier just meant XX mils (6) of plastic sheeting, but there are a bunch of different products, materials, and "membranes" out there. There are limitless wood products to use on the walls and almost everyone of those has someone telling you not to. So I figure I'll just bite the bullet and pay for SC - hoping to source semi local, because shipping 4'x8' sheets of wood is costly.

I shared my thoughts on the project with my brother who used to flip/rent homes. He thinks I should pull the existing drywall out and put up a blue/green board product. Next, he prefers some paper-like vapor liner they use behind shower stalls (forget the name) and doesn't think I should nail/screw the panels (puncture the barrier), but rather glue them. Further, he expressed concerns about moisture getting trapped between the drywall and the vapor barrier.

On the other hand, I've read a lot of warnings about using any kind of adhesive due to off-gassing, odors, etc. While it will obviously be a "humid" environment, do any of you think a small finishing nail through a vapor barrier, into a wall stud would present any issues? Ok, it wouldn't be 1 hole, but more like 100 - lol. Also, I'm not going to lie - the thought of pulling all the drywall out (really not that hard, but messy) and then cutting, hanging, taping, and half-assed buttering (it's an art and I suck at it) is almost enough to make me want to back out.

At this point I"m paralyzed by indecision, so any thoughts are appreciated.

[Nature]

I think you are overthinking this. The end goal is to create an environment in which you can control the humidity (and temperature to a lesser degree, but that is taken care of by your home’s HVAC). It doesn’t need to be hermetically sealed. Only enough that your humidification source can keep up. If you use an active humidity source, you shouldn’t have any issue. I still say, painted drywall would meet that end. Filling the small nail holes will help. Is the moisture barrier to keep moisture i? or to protect the structure/walls behind the plywood? Seriously, I think you could just nail up the plywood, fill the nail holes and any seams. Vapor barrier optional. It’s inexpensive and easy enough to hang some 4 mil plastic sheeting, go ahead as no harm should come of it. You don’t need the extent of what they might install behind a shower that receives direct water spray and splashing. What do the walls, if they are exterior, feel like in the coldest months? I don’t know what type of insulating properties your home might have. I imagine it is similar, as you are still insulating against heat. If it feels cold in the winter, then MAYBE condensation could be an issue. If all of the walls are interior, not an outside wall, no worries. 70% ish humidity shouldn’t pose an issue at or near room temperatures or we would all have problems with our wooden trays, drawers or humidors we may are using now.

You have likely come across this article already. https://www.cigarjournal.com/how-to-build-your-own-walk-in-humidor-one/

[josh lucky 13]

I think pulling dry wall is overkill. Added work and cost. You want the barrier between what ever you want to put up to stop the humidity from leaking out. I have read the bottom of cheap humidor is the main reason they don't hold humidity well. They are too thin and humidity passes thru it. True? Idk but a barrier to help hold would be good. As for nails or staples I think the holes you may lose some humidity but should not be enough to matter. Nails or staples will cause less damage if this is ever removed.

If you go sc on walls what wood are you going to use for shelves? Sc or something different. I would rather have sc shelves and a possible different on walls.

[Emperor Zurg]

Listen to you guize! Overkill you say??? If anything its UNDER-Kill.
What you ought to be encouraging is converting the entire bedroom into a walk-in humidor. The bottom of that closet can then house an elaborate environmental control system and the upper part can be shelving to hold / display accessories; lighters, cutters, ashtrays etc... Then of course the upstairs can be the 'smoking room' and SCG and his family can sleep in the basement.

[SoCal gunner]

Nah, Come on@ Emperor Zurg - Nothing like that. More on pace with what this guy did (though I question his paneling choice - but he says it works for him).
https://www.youtube.com/embed/sTAuJpDJiJQ?feature=oembed

Or what this guy did on Reddit:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200525/e7052a824a6097ee4af672f110f03fb2.jpg
https://amp.reddit.com/r/cigars/comments/d03hye/finally_pulled_the_trigger_and_built_my_walkin/
(Buried in the comments is a detailed build sheet with costs)

[josh lucky 13]

Nah, Come on@ Emperor Zurg - Nothing like that. More on pace with what this guy did (though I question his paneling choice - but he says it works for him).
https://www.youtube.com/embed/sTAuJpDJiJQ?feature=oembed

Or what this guy did on Reddit:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200525/e7052a824a6097ee4af672f110f03fb2.jpg
https://amp.reddit.com/r/cigars/comments/d03hye/finally_pulled_the_trigger_and_built_my_walkin/
(Buried in the comments is a detailed build sheet with costs)

Bit more shelves than I had imagined. However the scalloped shelves did make me think he had a small wine rack down there at first. I like his baskets for holding singles but I think I would want some sort of built in with drawers for singles and bombs. But it really depends on your stash. Flat shelves or angled? For me angled is only for the boxes you want to show off.

[Emperor Zurg]

And of course a massive wine rack and beer taps all along one wall...

[SoCal gunner]

Yeah, that guy has waaay more shelves than I'd need.

Speaking of shelves, I've been talking with some suppliers and one of them suggested only doing the back wall, but doing 6 or 7 shelves. I like the fact that this guy thought about the room and mentioned it may not be a good look to have shelves on the sidewalls as they would stick out past the (current) entryway. Also, there would be more "walk in space" and easier to move the humidifier around.

Overall, I'm surprised on how many places just don't get back to you (covid effect?). Still haven't heard from several lumber suppliers.

[CentralTimeSmoke]

I don't see why there's concern over dampness--this is a humidor, not a greenhouse. 65% humidity shouldn't cause any kind of mold/dampness issue with drywall, unless your active humidifier isn't properly set up and it's all going to one spot on the wall. This is how I gauge whether I can buy and immediately smoke from a B&M...if it feels like Florida when I walk in, it's too humid and will need rest. A correctly humidified humidor shouldn't really feel like anything when you walk in.

Just think about your coolidors or humidors--do you have any issues with mold or mildew? They're just tiny versions of a room. If you're wanting some Spanish cedar to help with humidity retention, I've seen people use cigar box lids in a mosaic-type fashion on the back of a cabinet humidor and it looked great. Most B&Ms will give them to you for free, or look out for estate sales/Craigslist.

IMO, your most pressing concern is what kind of door to install. I agree that you should leave it in the hands of a pro, and glass would look great. I would try to get it as air-tight as possible. I think the idea of outside airflow is a bit overstated. I've used nothing but air-tight coolidors for years now, and some I won't open for a month of two. Never had any issues whatsoever. I would install a small fan at the bottom and have it kick on every other hour just to keep the humidity constant throughout, but that's it.

[SoCal gunner]

I've all but stopped being worried about mold, green board, and vapor barriers. I"ve applied a primer/sealer w/mildew inhibitor on all the walls.

I've called every place within a couple hours of me - even posted on carpenter forums - and nobody in SoCal has Spanish Cedar Ply. Many have or can order board feet.

The good news is, I've found a couple one stop vendors who are working up package prices for me.

The door is the other pain in the ass: Too small an opening for a slider (they make 'em, but just too narrow for my taste). Exterior French doors will seal tight, but cost a load of dough and require a threshold at the bottom. I'm leaning towards an interior set of French doors with some weather stripping.

[SoCal gunner]

I asked a place to quote me on a cabinet to just slide into the closet and it as $8K w/o any options :faint: It was really nice though!

All but set on paneling with shelves against back wall only and putting humidifier to one side.

The door continues to be THE pain! This isnt a traditional doorway rough opening, because it was dry walled in. I'll most likely have to cut the drywall back and special order a prehung door to the opening.

[SoCal gunner]

Flooring installed

Spanish Cedar paneling and shelves ordered.

Door appointment tomorrow.

[CentralTimeSmoke]

Pics or it didn’t happen!

[SoCal gunner]

Pics or it didn’t happen!Snapping some along the way! Not much to see yet.

[SoCal gunner]

So "walk in" may be over stated after talking to door guy - when talking options, he said "so you want to be able to close the door behind a fat lady" [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

Ok, so I'm working on a "step in" humidor". Fat lady optional.

[SoCal gunner]

After being a month overdue, I have a delivery appointment for the cedar. This was after endless calls to the freight company and Cedar supplier. The supplier is a cool guy and a victim of the freight company as much as I am, but in the end he chose them. So I finally told him I was going to call my CC company and file a claim. He understood and said he was about to file a loss claim with the freight company and had reached out to his broker several times.

As relieved as I am, this is 2020 and I'm fully expecting the crate to looked like they dragged across the country- wish me luck.

[WNYTONY]

After being a month overdue, I have a delivery appointment for the cedar. This was after endless calls to the freight company and Cedar supplier. The supplier is a cool guy and a victim of the freight company as much as I am, but in the end he chose them. So I finally told him I was going to call my CC company and file a claim. He understood and said he was about to file a loss claim with the freight company and had reached out to his broker several times.

As relieved as I am, this is 2020 and I'm fully expecting the crate to looked like they dragged across the country- wish me luck.

Interesting that you now may be getting your wood right after Tombstone posted that ad :whoo:

[SoCal gunner]

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[josh lucky 13]

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If you have it more than 4 hrs consult a few nurses

[Tombstone]

Oh man did the wood arrive?

[SoCal gunner]

Oh man did the wood arrive?Yes Sir!

[SoCal gunner]

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[josh lucky 13]

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Should wear a respirator Spanish cedar dust is supposed to be hard on the lungs and is an irritant

[Tombstone]

Should wear a respirator Spanish cedar dust is supposed to be hard on the lungs and is an irritant

I always imagined TJ going to the local border crossing with a box of Te-Amos and hiring a few fresh bodies to do the work for him. But I have heard the same about the cedar. Plus being California everything known to man is labeled with cancer warnings.

[SoCal gunner]

Should wear a respirator Spanish cedar dust is supposed to be hard on the lungs and is an irritantTastes funny too - no wonder the beetles stay away from it.

[SoCal gunner]

I always imagined TJ going to the local border crossing with a box of Te-Amos and hiring a few fresh bodies to do the work for him. But I have heard the same about the cedar. Plus being California everything known to man is labeled with cancer warnings.Aw come on Ryan, I even built the jig shown in the pic to rip perfectly straight pieces of plywood. Not sure why I did since nothing in the closet is straight, plumb, level or has 90° angles all at the same time.

This will be my first time cutting & installing crown molding, so I bought a jig gadget for that - all those angles and working upside-down make my head hurt.

[josh lucky 13]

Aw come on Ryan, I even built the jig shown in the pic to rip perfectly straight pieces of plywood. Not sure why I did since nothing in the closet is straight, plumb, level or has 90° angles all at the same time.

This will be my first time cutting & installing crown molding, so I bought a jig gadget for that - all those angles and working upside-down make my head hurt.

Crown is easy unless ceiling ain't level

[Tombstone]

Aw come on Ryan, I even built the jig shown in the pic to rip perfectly straight pieces of plywood. Not sure why I did since nothing in the closet is straight, plumb, level or has 90° angles all at the same time.

This will be my first time cutting & installing crown molding, so I bought a jig gadget for that - all those angles and working upside-down make my head hurt.
IT was not meant as a knock on you just your states natural resource. I would do it just for the hell of it if I could.

[SoCal gunner]

IT was not meant as a knock on you just your states natural resource. I would do it just for the hell of it if I could.Oh, I've done it. Especially when they come to you: I was laying courses of block retaining wall and a truck pulls up with 3 dudes. They come up and ask if need help. I skeptically ask how much. Guy says $75. I hand him the trowel and say go for it. That dude slung that mortar like a fucking artist on a coke binge.

[josh lucky 13]

IT was not meant as a knock on you just your states natural resource. I would do it just for the hell of it if I could.

Tickets are cheap and you will know where he keeps the sticks

[SoCal gunner]

Crown is easy unless ceiling ain't levelSo what are you doing this weekend?

Do you miter or cope your crown?

I feel like I'm going to HAVE to cope since even the crown molding is Spanish Cedar - not like I can swab some caulk in the gap and paint it!

[SoCal gunner]

Update on the door: Got the call that after waiting over a month that the door was built out of spec. Not something easily corrected like wrong swing - they built the whole thing TOO BIG to fit! AHHHHHHHH!

And get this - the builder has run out of material and is weeks out on manufacturing.

[Emperor Zurg]

So what are you doing this weekend?

Do you miter or cope your crown?

I feel like I'm going to HAVE to cope since even the crown molding is Spanish Cedar - not like I can swab some caulk in the gap and paint it!


Update on the door: Got the call that after waiting over a month that the door was built out of spec. Not something easily corrected like wrong swing - they built the whole thing TOO BIG to fit! AHHHHHHHH!

And get this - the builder has run out of material and is weeks out on manufacturing.

Lol!! Looks like you are going to need a coping mechanism.
Good thing you still have cigars.

[josh lucky 13]

So what are you doing this weekend?

Do you miter or cope your crown?

I feel like I'm going to HAVE to cope since even the crown molding is Spanish Cedar - not like I can swab some caulk in the gap and paint it!

Coping gives you the best look in my opinion. You can get tighter joints so less filler is needed for paint or staining.

I just finished my 2nd scrimmage over 6 miles in 2 days my ass is tired

[SoCal gunner]

I almost hesitate to post this, but looks like I could get an early B-Day present in a couple weeks.
Door is reportedly complete!

[WNYTONY]

I almost hesitate to post this, but looks like I could get an early B-Day present in a couple weeks.
Door is reportedly complete!

That's nice but damn, got all excited when I saw this post listed cause I thought there were going to be pics ! Pics of wood

[AlanS]

That's nice but damn, got all excited when I saw this post listed cause I thought there were going to be pics ! Pics of wood

Bottom line is you got wood!


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[WNYTONY]

Bottom line is you got wood!


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkSome stuff cardboard at the very least

[WNYTONY]

The lack of updates and pictures in this thread is borderline cruel. Here we all are, huddled in at home looking for something positive in these crazy times and SoCal gunner decides to hold out on us ??? Come on TJ - we need some cigar porn right about now :drool:

[SoCal gunner]

1) Still needs some work before the grand reveal (I know better than to show an empty space, even if a work-in-progress).

2) Neighbor up the street is moving soon and jhedrick83 is going to need a place on the block.

[jhedrick83]

1) Still needs some work before the grand reveal (I know better than to show an empty space, even if a work-in-progress).

2) Neighbor up the street is moving soon and jhedrick83 is going to need a place on the block.

What the hell man. I thought I was going to get to stay IN your new humidor.....

[AlanS]

What the hell man. I thought I was going to get to stay IN your new humidor.....

Jesse I had know idea you was moving to Commiefornia! Make sure We get the new addy

[SoCal gunner]

TJ-

First of all, if you do this, I'm moving to your neighborhood.

As for expansion, if you let what you are going to line the walls with/make shelves out of rest in the humidified space for a few days it should acclimate and be fine to just butt the ends as long as the room itself wouldn't have big temp swings on a regular basis.

As for materials, when I turned an old gun cabinet into a humidor (and then did another for a friend) I used Bristol Valley Hardwoods Bristol Valley Hardwoods – Hardwoods & Speciality Wood Products (http://www.bristolvalley.com/) They will even (or did several years ago) cut to size before they ship it.

If you do this, you must post pics. Must. Post. Pics.

Ahem ^

[WNYTONY]

1) Still needs some work before the grand reveal (I know better than to show an empty space, even if a work-in-progress).

2) Neighbor up the street is moving soon and jhedrick83 is going to need a place on the block.Oh we know it's a work in progress and wouldn't hold it against you that it's empty. Heck it won't be full when it's done. Pass granted. Now giddy up

[jhedrick83]

Ahem ^

Well, living in the humidor makes it less creepy than me constantly staring in your windows. Besides, So Cal is expensive to live in man...

[Nature]

Well, living in the humidor makes it less creepy than me constantly staring in your windows. Besides, So Cal is expensive to live in man...
If you lived in the humidor, you might actually smoke a cigar once in a while. :p

[SoCal gunner]

If you lived in the humidor, you might actually smoke a cigar once in a while. :pROFL! I'd have to hide the few AF sticks I have around jhedrick83

[jhedrick83]

ROFL! I'd have to hide the few AF sticks I have around jhedrick83

How far is Casa Fuente in Vegas from you???


If you lived in the humidor, you might actually smoke a cigar once in a while. :p

I hope every time you post an @ it notifies you for each @. Even if it’s in the same post...

[SoCal gunner]

How far is Casa Fuente in Vegas from you???



I hope every time you post an @ it notifies you for each @. Even if it’s in the same post...Haven't hit Vegas since Covid and I'm totally out of Casa Fuente house sticks. Been really tempted to just make a turnaround trip, but now we're spiking.

[SoCal gunner]

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[AlanS]

Big tease!

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[WNYTONY]

That's it ???

[josh lucky 13]

That's it ???

Looks empty

[WNYTONY]

Looks emptyLol - nice. And I wasn't the one to say it SoCal gunner

[SoCal gunner]

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[Ciro]

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Dam TJ; that's a really Big Empty Humidor. Looks like you may need help to fill! :kickbutt:

[SoCal gunner]

Dam TJ; that's a really Big Empty Humidor. Looks like you may need help to fill! :kickbutt:I was granted a pass!

[josh lucky 13]

I was granted a pass!

By who?

[SoCal gunner]

By who?
Oh we know it's a work in progress and wouldn't hold it against you that it's empty. Heck it won't be full when it's done. Pass granted. Now giddy upBy one of the 5... I mean Tony

[SoCal gunner]

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[WNYTONY]

By one of the 5... I mean TonyTrue, true I did grant a pass in order to see some cigar porn. But you aren't posting pictures very often and that could be a flag for delay of game and you know josh lucky 13 likes to throw a quick flag.

Moar ! Moar ! Looking good so far buddy.

[josh lucky 13]

By one of the 5... I mean Tony

He can't count.... so he shouldn't count

[SoCal gunner]

He can't count.... so he shouldn't countThe irony does not escape me, however, a pass is a pass!

[WNYTONY]

The irony does not escape me, however, a pass is a pass!

While I may have granted you a pass, I cannot control what these other Bums may or may not choose to do...... :devilgrin:

[SoCal gunner]

While I may have granted you a pass, I cannot control what these other Bums may or may not choose to do...... :devilgrin:Where is the UNlike button?

[jhedrick83]

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Looking awesome!

[SoCal gunner]

Looking awesome!Thanks! Too bad I can't post any more pictures - thought I had a pass.

[AlanS]

Thanks! Too bad I can't post any more pictures - thought I had a pass.Did you need cigars?

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[SoCal gunner]

Did you need cigars?

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] - No! As of right now, I don't even have a humidor.
Heck, I've had to send extras out before they went bad!

[AlanS]

[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] - No! As of right now, I don't even have a humidor.
Heck, I've had to send extras out before they went bad!I had extra humis but some Bums have filled them

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[Old Smokey]

I had extra humis but some Bums have filled them

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So your sayin you need another humidor?

[AlanS]

So your sayin you need another humidor?No actually I'm filling Tupperdors now but thanks

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[josh lucky 13]

So your sayin you need another humidor?

We may need to send some to TJ since his humidor isn't finished and he needs to send out sticks before they ruin?

[SoCal gunner]

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[josh lucky 13]

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Not bad its on the bottom of the humidor so its not a focal point.

[SoCal gunner]

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[josh lucky 13]

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Wow that wall is so empty you had to put the lights on it?

[Old Smokey]

Wow that wall is so empty you had to put the lights on it?

I've never seen anyone so excited about building an empty closet. Plenty of room for shoes!

[SoCal gunner]

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[CitizenZero]

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[josh lucky 13]

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Good job it can sometimes be tricky to get those adjustable shelves level. Looking good so far.

[WNYTONY]

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Looking great TJ ! Is that wall mine or Kayla's ?

[josh lucky 13]

Looking great TJ ! Is that wall mine or Kayla's ?

Now Tony don't be scaring TJ like that. You get top half Kayla gets the bottom.

[Ciro]

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That looks Amazing!! (and really, really Empty! Just Saying) :hammerhead:

[jhedrick83]

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Now we are talking!! Looking good.

[CentralTimeSmoke]

Lookin' good!

[Old Smokey]

Spacious! How many guns do you think it will hold?

[SoCal gunner]

Spacious! How many guns do you think it will hold?I like the way you think!

Much better than my wife's idea of stacking shoes in there!

[SoCal gunner]

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[WNYTONY]

Sweet !

[SoCal gunner]

Doors in the raw...


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[CentralTimeSmoke]

Oh yeah!


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[Nature]

Looks amazing!
What are you using as a seal at the bottom? Just a regular door sweep?

[josh lucky 13]

Doors in the raw...


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So is the glass supposed to be frosted or is that a film?

[AlanS]

Doors in the raw...


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[SoCal gunner]

So is the glass supposed to be frosted or is that a film?That's a film on the glass.

[josh lucky 13]

That's a film on the glass.

What i expected but was unsure. I also had an idea about etching the glass but that could hurt you if you decide to leave Cali and sell. So vinyl lettering on the door?

[Ciro]

That looks Amazing!! Coming along very nice!!!

[chain_gang]

Damn that looks nice.

[WNYTONY]

Oh boy, now we're up to the good pics now. Damn that looks good buddy - I love the layout of the shelves with the top few angled. Keep up the good work

[allusred]

Now Tony don't be scaring TJ like that. You get top half Kayla gets the bottom.

As on the Orient Express. Sleepers? would not the proprieties determine who gets the upper or lower berth.

Or. Sleepers as meaning Wood in Cigar Bum lingo, Knights of the Open Road.

Wouldn't mention ties that bind. Sounds like a ref to S&M. Rather than the intended Railroad ties.

[SoCal gunner]

Looks amazing!
What are you using as a seal at the bottom? Just a regular door sweep?Missed this one... no sweep, no seal, just cut the door really close. From some of my readings, I didn't want a hermetically seal room - I think a little breathing room is good. If conditions dictate later I can add a strip.

[SoCal gunner]

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[Nature]

Looks like you did more than just the closet. Looks awesome.
What are you using as a humidification source? Your control also has temp settings. Do you have temp control as well? Or just ambient room temp?

[AlanS]

Only Bum I know can walk in to they’re humidor and close the lid behind him!


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[SoCal gunner]

Looks like you did more than just the closet. Looks awesome.
What are you using as a humidification source? Your control also has temp settings. Do you have temp control as well? Or just ambient room temp?That's ambient temp - humidity is fed back from remote sensor on other side of humidor. Have yet to permanently mount the controls as I experiment with the feedback/settings.

[Nature]

Missed this one... no sweep, no seal, just cut the door really close. From some of my readings, I didn't want a hermetically seal room - I think a little breathing room is good. If conditions dictate later I can add a strip.
It would never be hermetically sealed for me. It would be opened daily, sometimes several times a day, if for nothing else than to look at them and take in the aroma.

[SoCal gunner]

It would never be hermetically sealed for me. It would be opened daily, sometimes several times a day, if for nothing else than to look at them and take in the aroma.Pretty much nailed it- lol

[WNYTONY]

It would never be hermetically sealed for me. It would be opened daily, sometimes several times a day, if for nothing else than to look at them and take in the aroma.

Never a truer word has been spoken !

[Brimy]

SoCal gunner
Hey TJ!
Where are the pics of her full?!

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[josh lucky 13]

SoCal gunner
Hey TJ!
Where are the pics of her full?!

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Maybe its not full and he needs help?