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jrfoxx
11-19-2019, 03:18 PM
Just like the title says. My cigars are kept at 65rh, but 2 times using the draw tool badly cracked the wrapper
Any suggestions?

AlanS
11-19-2019, 03:24 PM
Are they connies or...

jhedrick83
11-19-2019, 03:26 PM
Yeah, the different wrappers tend to have different strengths and thicknesses, some are more likely to crack than others. What draw tool are you using? The ones that have a little barb I think are the best as you can push it in and it will pull out a little tobacco on it's way out, so you aren't wiggling it around, just straight in and out.

jrfoxx
11-19-2019, 03:41 PM
Yeah, its only been an issue with one brand of Coronas. I'm careful to only poke the tool around the middle. It's a straight tool with a point on the end, no barbs.

jhedrick83
11-19-2019, 08:39 PM
Yeah, its only been an issue with one brand of Coronas. I'm careful to only poke the tool around the middle. It's a straight tool with a point on the end, no barbs.

Out of curiosity, what Cigar?

jrfoxx
11-19-2019, 09:37 PM
Out of curiosity, what Cigar?Casa de Garcia Nicaragua Corona

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Brimy
11-20-2019, 08:51 AM
Hey jrfoxx
It would be nice if you introduced yourself.

Nature
11-20-2019, 09:41 AM
Is it just this cigar that is cracking or that you have to use a draw tool?
i rarely have the need for a draw tool, like less than one out of every 30-40 cigars. Often it’s the same cigar line that gives me trouble indicating it’s a rolling issue. I wouldn’t expect that you would have to use the draw tool so frequently.

jrfoxx
11-20-2019, 09:47 AM
It hasn't been to often that I need the draw tool. Maybe 3 cigars per hundred
It only happens to a certain brand and I know that it is stored at 60 degrees and 65 percent rh, so they aren't dry
I just can't figure it out an I smoked plenty of tight draws without using the tool.

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josh lucky 13
11-20-2019, 10:27 AM
No expert but sounds like a rolling issue. How are you cutting guillotine punch v cut? Have you tried a different cutter?

AlanS
11-20-2019, 01:02 PM
It hasn't been to often that I need the draw tool. Maybe 3 cigars per hundred
It only happens to a certain brand and I know that it is stored at 60 degrees and 65 percent rh, so they aren't dry
I just can't figure it out an I smoked plenty of tight draws without using the tool.

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The “RH” stands for relative humidity, if your cigars are 65% at 60 degrees they’re probably over humidified and closer to 75% at 70degrees.

jrfoxx
11-20-2019, 01:59 PM
Wow, didn't know that
I'll try some 62% bovada packs and move them to a warmer area. Thanks man

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CentralTimeSmoke
12-02-2019, 12:30 PM
The “RH” stands for relative humidity, if your cigars are 65% at 60 degrees they’re probably over humidified and closer to 75% at 70degrees.

If you have an accurate hygrometer, then temperature is factored into the RH reading. That's the whole point of measuring things in relative humidity--it's measuring the humidity in relation to the temperature. So it doesn't matter if it's 40 degrees or 80 degrees, if you have an accurate hygrometer and it reads 65RH, that's what your cigars are being stored at.

You are correct that temperature fluctuations affect RH, but it's actually the other way around. Higher temps will drop the RH if nothing is done to correct it (i.e. adding water vapor). That's why two-way humidifiers like Bovedas are great. I keep all my cigars in the basement, so they're prone to seasonal temp changes. But I know that no matter the temperature, the bags will keep the RH at 65, as that's what they're designed to do no matter the temperature.

What's most important is to keep the temperature constant. It will take awhile for a Boveda or any other humidifying device to correct the RH when temp swings happen.


If the water vapor content stays the same and the temperature drops, the relative humidity increases. If the water vapor content stays the same and the temperature rises, the relative humidity decreases. This is because colder air doesn’t require as much moisture to become saturated as warmer air.

https://climate.ncsu.edu/edu/Humidity